which banana plugs at speaker end?

Posted by: analogmusic on 22 August 2017

Maybe this has been covered before, but which Banana plugs at speaker end give best timing and PRAT?

I got Dynaudio Focus 260 speakers. 

Posted on: 22 August 2017 by james n
analogmusic posted:

 which Banana plugs at speaker end give best timing and PRAT?

Are you serious ?

Posted on: 22 August 2017 by Klout10

Life's too short to really bother 

Posted on: 22 August 2017 by Richard Dane

Analog, I would fit whichever speaker plugs are recommended by Dynaudio - generally it's best to match the plug to the connector as best as possible to minimise any losses through dissimilar materials.

Posted on: 22 August 2017 by hungryhalibut

Or get some Super Lumina speaker wires - good plugs at both ends. 

Posted on: 22 August 2017 by David Hendon

The other thing some people do is to use Naim loudspeaker plugs and take off the plastic cover.

best

David

Posted on: 22 August 2017 by Tamarin
David Hendon posted:

The other thing some people do is to use Naim loudspeaker plugs and take off the plastic cover.

best

David

Yes, that's exactly what I did with my NACA5 cables for my Focus 260s. It works fine.

Alternatively, I'd recommend Deltron 4mm Nickel Banana Plugs with "Large Solder Bucket".

Posted on: 22 August 2017 by Tamarin

Note to DIY'ers on solder-style Deltron banana plugs...

Just be careful to avoid going overboard with the quantity of solder. It can get sucked up into the banana plug body, which will prevent articulation of the contact spring.

You'll find out when you try to insert the plug. No joy.

Don't force it. You'll have to remove and toss the overfed plug, and start again with a fresh one (ask me how I know this).

Posted on: 22 August 2017 by badlands

I used the Naim banana plugs for my Dyns.

Posted on: 22 August 2017 by Tamarin

Badlands,

With our without the Naim plastic housing, which enforces 19mm spacing?

Which Dyns do you have? The Focus 260s (at least) have a 40mm binding post spacing, hence the Naim speaker plugs plastic housing must be removed.

Posted on: 23 August 2017 by Huge

Depending on the speaker cable you use and the plating on the speaker terminals, the solder on type of gold plated beryllium copper Z-plugs can be very effective, but only for lighter weight speaker cables (N.B. not NAC-A5 or TQB!).

Otherwise Deltrons soldered on are a good bet.
If your speakers have nickel plated sockets, the the Naim plugs are ideal.


In any case it's best to match the plating of the plug to the plating of the socket
Gold -> Gold
Nickel -> Nickel  *
Silver -> Silver  *
Gold -> Chrome

*  These need to be unplugged and re-plugged a few times every 4 - 12 months to clean off oxides and sulphides; the others can often be left up to 3 years depending on atmospheric conditions.

Posted on: 23 August 2017 by Jumping Jack

I have Qed Airlock banana's on my NAC A5. They make for a very solid connection.

Posted on: 23 August 2017 by Richard Dane

JJ, somewhere in the dark recesses of my memory I seem to recall that the Airlocks were not much liked on NACA5.  I'll see if I can dig up some old opinion on it...

Posted on: 23 August 2017 by musicnuttyboy
james n posted:
analogmusic posted:

 which Banana plugs at speaker end give best timing and PRAT?

Are you serious ?

Serious PRAT for sure!! 

Posted on: 23 August 2017 by badlands
Tamarin posted:

Badlands,

With our without the Naim plastic housing, which enforces 19mm spacing?

Which Dyns do you have? The Focus 260s (at least) have a 40mm binding post spacing, hence the Naim speaker plugs plastic housing must be removed.

Tamarin,

Yes, the plastic housing is removed, I have the Excite X38 speakers, they have the same binding posts, spacing, as the focus 260's.

Posted on: 23 August 2017 by Tamarin

Thanks for clarifying, Badlands.

Posted on: 23 August 2017 by audio1946

principle of crimping /compression similar to airlock is electrically the best

Posted on: 23 August 2017 by Huge
audio1946 posted:

principle of crimping /compression similar to airlock is electrically the best

Can you justify that assertion?

Posted on: 23 August 2017 by Adam Meredith
Richard Dane posted:

JJ, somewhere in the dark recesses of my memory I seem to recall that the Airlocks were not much liked on NACA5.  I'll see if I can dig up some old opinion on it...

https://forums.naimaudio.com/to...84#21277303071503884  other comments seem to be lost in the old forum.