Over heating NAP250DR

Posted by: Monkadill on 23 August 2017

My 250DR has shut down on me a few times recently as it became over heated, once was when the weather was very warm but the last occasion was during a listening session and the volume was pushed to 60-70. The Speakers are Ovator S400's. Is my 250DR under powered to play that volume for sustained periods? 

Posted on: 24 August 2017 by analogmusic

The other thing I would add about a 500 is that it is very revealing and the source has to be up to it.

It really comes to life with a Chord Dave as a source - and can expose weaknesses of inferior sources.

 

Posted on: 24 August 2017 by Adam Zielinski

Yess!!! We finally have a Chord DAC on a power-amp thread  My day is now complete.

Posted on: 24 August 2017 by hungryhalibut

You know that you are nothing without a bloody Chord DAC. 

Posted on: 24 August 2017 by yeti42

We were discussing the 250 not the 500, it's only slightly more relevant than the dave.

Posted on: 24 August 2017 by Innocent Bystander

And it wasn't I who mentioned it!

 

Posted on: 24 August 2017 by analogmusic

No, I was just responding to that Allante question - looks like he got a massive dose of FOMO - fear of missing out - and the lack of funds seems to occupying and dominating his peace of mind.

Maybe his kit isn't set up properly either or he got electrical issues, when Naim kit doesn't come on song, one can start to (based on all the upgrade excitement on the forum) - wonder maybe the next level up will give me that Naim sound.

It's nonsense - even the Nait 5i and Unitiqute got the Naim sound, and just needs a little care to make it sing.

I could live with a UQ if I had to, and it would be a very fine sounding hi-fi system, given matching speakers.

Anyway back to the 250 shut down, again, it's a powerful amp, but a little care is needed, 3.5 M of NACA 5 minimum, and sensible use, it's not a whole home device.... 

 

 

Posted on: 25 August 2017 by Adam Meredith
jon honeyball posted:

    which we find to be boring.

I shall call thee 'Legion'  - for thou art plural.

Posted on: 25 August 2017 by Huge
Adam Meredith posted:
jon honeyball posted:

    which we find to be boring.

I shall call thee 'Legion'  - for thou art plural.

And I shall call thee 'lesion' - for I am dyslexic!

Posted on: 25 August 2017 by Adam Meredith

Or even 'foot' for thou art leg end.

Posted on: 25 August 2017 by Huge

Touché! 

Posted on: 25 August 2017 by Dan.S

OP: have you checked the power cable is in phase? I had a similar problem with an UnitiLite getting really hot to the point it skipped disks and powered off by it self. Changed the phase and solved the problem!

Posted on: 25 August 2017 by jon h

any suggestions of changes to mains wiring (unless its a fig-8 power plug and hence can be inserted either way around) is going to get a stern frown from Richard

 

Posted on: 25 August 2017 by analogmusic
Adam Zielinski posted:

Yess!!! We finally have a Chord DAC on a power-amp thread  My day is now complete.

Hopefully you will audition one Adam soon, and see what it is all about 

Posted on: 25 August 2017 by Adam Zielinski
analogmusic posted:
Adam Zielinski posted:

Yess!!! We finally have a Chord DAC on a power-amp thread  My day is now complete.

Hopefully you will audition one Adam soon, and see what it is all about 

Happy here with my humble NDS + 555PSDR 

Posted on: 25 August 2017 by james n
Hungryhalibut posted:

You know that you are nothing without a bloody Chord DAC. 

I sent mine back. I am nothing again 

Posted on: 25 August 2017 by analogmusic

you sold your Naim too, and moved to Devialet.

The class D amp of Devialet destroyed the transient accuracy that Rob Watts worked 30 years of his life to create, no wonder you didn't hear it.

Suggest to try again with a Naim 

Posted on: 25 August 2017 by james n
analogmusic posted:

you sold your Naim too, and moved to Devialet.

You got strange taste, but it's a free world. 

The class D amp of Devialet destroyed the transient accuracy that Rob Watts worked 30 years of his life to create, no wonder you didn't hear it.

No i listened to the Mojo through my Shure IEM's - It was very good but not as good as my Sony DAP so i returned it. 

 

Posted on: 25 August 2017 by analogmusic

fair enough. 

Posted on: 25 August 2017 by Richard Dane
jon honeyball posted:

any suggestions of changes to mains wiring (unless its a fig-8 power plug and hence can be inserted either way around) is going to get a stern frown from Richard

 

Or unless you are based in contintental Europe where getting the phase right or wrong is quite possible.  A phase test induction pen is a good investment there.

Posted on: 25 August 2017 by Adam Zielinski
Richard Dane posted:
jon honeyball posted:

any suggestions of changes to mains wiring (unless its a fig-8 power plug and hence can be inserted either way around) is going to get a stern frown from Richard

 

Or unless you are based in contintental Europe where getting the phase right or wrong is quite possible.  A phase test induction pen is a good investment there.

Indeed.

One more 'complication' also arises in continental Europe: despite a seemingly simple agreement, mains cable manufacturers actually do get their phases mixed up. Generally it should be in the right-hand side of the component-end plug (plug viewed so that pin-holes are visible).


Naim's  and Linn's mains cable's are actually consistently wired differently - their phase is in the left hole (at least the ones I've come across over the years).


Many reputable cable manufacturers get it consistently wrong. The same cables from the same manufacturers can be wired differently.Thanks to standard Shucko plugs, cables can be plugged in differently. 
A phase test induction screwdriver is vital here.

Posted on: 25 August 2017 by Richard Dane

The cables can sometimes vary too - Musicline used to mark the phase on the plug of the mains leads with a white blob.  That way you could ensure that all were the same way round. They may well still do that...