Naim and Roon

Magagne , have you looked at Sonore UPnP Bridge ? 

Terry Smith posted:

Magagne , have you looked at Sonore UPnP Bridge ? 

Yeah I read some time ago this long thread on RoonLab forum about "SonoreUPnP Bridge (beta)"... but a guy have some trouble with it, don't know if it still in beta version too....any one here tried this solution, and, of course, DSD 64 with it?

Latest news, not long now. 

I'm very interested to see what new uniti owners make of Roon. 

.sjb

Thanks John.

I was at a big dealer in Toronto this week, first serious listen to Atom and Nova. Sales rep also mentioned the share booth presence at CEDIA with Naim at Roon. Nice.

Question (for those of us who truly desire "single box"): How far is the leap from Roon Ready to Roon End Point? As I understand it, Roon Ready still requires an intermediate box as a buffer between the Roon Core and the DAC/player...

Regards alan

Sloop John B posted:

Latest news, not long now. 

I'm very interested to see what new uniti owners make of Roon. 

.sjb

Thanks for the update SJB I'm really looking forward to giving this a go when it becomes available.

I use Roon with my Devialet Pro. It has been fully integrated with this product and is almost a joy to use. From the Roon app I can start, end and control the volume of my amp. The presentation quality of your music is very good and it's historiographies down to the track level are very attractive. As others have pointed out, lyrics are also included for a huge amount of tracks, but not all.

However, when faced with simply a sea of albums, which is what happens when you import your music from Tidal, Qobuz, Spotify or whatever is a bit daunting. You can import your playlists but so far I have found no way of adding to, for example, a Tidal imported playlist from within the Roon app, you have to go back to Tidal. This means that for the umpteenth time I wil have to create a new set of playlists. Similarly, if I have tagged an album for future listening but can't quite remember the name of the artist then you can be faced with scrolling through quite a catalogue. If you flag something on Tidal itself it will appear at the front of the queue of albums.  

In terms of output quality, I also have Audirvana+ and have not been able to discern any real difference. I make no pretence at having a fine or delicate ear. I paid approximately £50 for an Audirvana + lifetime licence. I will have to pay about $119 for an annual Roon licence or $499 for the lifetime licence. 

alan33 posted:

Thanks John.

I was at a big dealer in Toronto this week, first serious listen to Atom and Nova. Sales rep also mentioned the share booth presence at CEDIA with Naim at Roon. Nice.

Question (for those of us who truly desire "single box"): How far is the leap from Roon Ready to Roon End Point? As I understand it, Roon Ready still requires an intermediate box as a buffer between the Roon Core and the DAC/player...

Regards alan

'Roon Ready' should mean that nothing else is required. Such a certified device is the end-point and should be discoverable and volume-controlled by Roon.

jobseeker posted:

'Roon Ready' should mean that nothing else is required. Such a certified device is the end-point and should be discoverable and volume-controlled by Roon.

Can I assume buttons on the NAIM remote control like STOP, PAUSE, NEXT, PREVIOUS will be functional too so will send command to the core without using a RoonController for those functionality ?

jobseeker posted:

alan33 posted:

How far is the leap from Roon Ready to Roon End Point? As I understand it, Roon Ready still requires an intermediate box as a buffer between the Roon Core and the DAC/player.

'Roon Ready' should mean that nothing else is required. Such a certified device is the end-point and should be discoverable and volume-controlled by Roon.

Thanks jobseeker! I guess I was mixing up "Roon Tested" and "Roon Ready". Good news. 

Regards, alan

magagne posted:

jobseeker posted:

'Roon Ready' should mean that nothing else is required. Such a certified device is the end-point and should be discoverable and volume-controlled by Roon.

Can I assume buttons on the NAIM remote control like STOP, PAUSE, NEXT, PREVIOUS will be functional too so will send command to the core without using a RoonController for those functionality ?

I believe it 'should' , though I don't know if that's a compulsory part of Roon Ready certification or not. It has worked like that previously in a Meridian set-up using a Meridian remote. I only did it as a test quite a while ago when I was using an MS200. I use a 218 now and always use the controls in the Roon app on an iPhone/iPad. However, the Atom might be on my list if Naim get the Roon implementation right, though the forthcoming Meridian 251 is also a contender if it sounds good. Different beasts in many ways really, but each has it's place depending on requirements.