Nova & LP12 ?

Posted by: ynwa250505 on 11 September 2017

Has anybody tried this yet? What phono stage was used? Thinking of digging my LP12 out for use with my imminently arriving Core & Nova 

Posted on: 12 September 2017 by Richard Dane

I imagine it may be a little bit soon for any feedback on this, but any of the usual suspects would be good with the Nova I'm sure. Prefix, superfine and whichever power supply. Just remember that a phono stage like the Superline needs space - you shouldn't position too close to the Nova or a power supply. 

Posted on: 12 September 2017 by Pev

I use an LP12/Ittok/VdH Troika with my Superuniti and a Stageline - it's excellent.

When Naim eventually get round to supplying my dealer with the Nova I ordered months ago I'll report on how that sounds. Good luck with the "imminently arriving!

Posted on: 12 September 2017 by hungryhalibut

My local dealer has already sold four Novas, has one on dem in the shop and had another arrive last Friday. They did mutter something about newly placed orders not arriving till January though....

Posted on: 12 September 2017 by Eoink
Hungryhalibut posted:

My local dealer has already sold four Novas, has one on dem in the shop and had another arrive last Friday. They did mutter something about newly placed orders not arriving till January though....

Mine has received and delivered  to the customer their 3 pre-orders, have their demo unit, they've  been told November for the new orders. (He says hopefully.)

Posted on: 12 September 2017 by stuart.ashen

Another vote for a Stageline, much underrated in my view. Not sure if you also need a power supply for it though. Super line is better of course, but this can follow later if you find you are using the LP12 enough.

Rega and others do less expensive stages and it might be worth a search.

Stu

Posted on: 12 September 2017 by hungryhalibut

If using a Stageline with a Nova, you'd need a power supply. 

Posted on: 12 September 2017 by stuart.ashen

Thanks Nigel, thought that might be the case.

Stu

Posted on: 12 September 2017 by Gazza

I would be interested in your opinion on sound quality of Core into Nova via the BNC coax connection versus ethernet. I have a cheap Belden coax BNC cable and it sounds at least as good, and perhaps better with female vocals and folk type music?

Posted on: 13 September 2017 by Allante93
ynwa250505 posted:

Has anybody tried this yet? What phono stage was used? Thinking of digging my LP12 out for use with my imminently arriving Core & Nova 

Well, going out on a limb, I take it you aren't doing the analog TT these days.

Is there any dust on your CD 555! LOL...

This Streaming is rather confusing, not to mention scary, just left the Streaming site!

Bored and nothing to do at the moment, I glanced Naim's all in one:

Nova ~ 4.2 GBP

Star ~ 3.4

Atom ~ 1.8

Hard Disk

Core ~ 1.8

Question:

Is it just me, or does the Star resemble the likes of an combined Core & Atom ?

I guess the nice thing is, all in one, just add speakers!

Allante93!

PS. On the Flip Side:

Where does the HDX fit in:

2 × 555 PS DR > NDS > .....   

NDS ~ 7.0 

HDX ~ 7.0

Thanks In Advance!

Just Curious!

 

 

Posted on: 13 September 2017 by ynwa250505

"TT"? Forgive my ignorance ...

I sold all my old (90s vintage) Naim kit a couple of years ago (I didn't think it would survive yet another Atlantic crossing) and am now getting back into the game. I've decided to go for the Nova/Core combo because I like that this is independent of physical networks and all that related stuff - it's a discrete solution with fewer boxes and yes, you just plug in some speakers. (However I know I will need a couple of extra boxes to run the LP12). Looking forward to hearing the Linn Keilidhs (floor standing, cherry finished, Ku-Stone-base, bi-wired) again - they sounded so beautiful driven by Naim. My wife's Qbs (two) will fit in well with this setup. My extensive collection of CDs and LPs get a new lease of life too. Just trying to work out which phono to go with though - hence the question ...

The great thing (for me) about streaming is our Spotify premium subscription. Music discovery is fascinating and being able to manage playing on an app is just too easy.

The HDX (etc) still has a place for those who prefer separates to a more integrated combo and the right collection of NAIM separates will undoubtedly deliver fantastic sound, though at a higher price point. Each to their own.

Yes, the Star does provide the functionality of Atom/Core, but I wanted a degree of separation from the ripping/storage functions in the interests of sound quality and (as I said) also wanted to avoid the complexities of a PC-based ripping solution. Not listened to the Star, but numerous threads seem very clear that the Nova's sound is superior (though I accept that SQ is solely in the ear of the listener).

Feel free to comment and thanks for your interest

Posted on: 13 September 2017 by Gazza

I am now almost a week into my new Nova, and it's getting much better each day, the Spotify premium integration is seamless. I also have a core, and the round quality is wonderful, enjoy......

 

 

 

Posted on: 13 September 2017 by Leon Wadsworth

I use an Avid Ingenium TT into the Nova via an "Arcam rPhono" phono stage. Sounds sweet. 

Posted on: 13 September 2017 by Allante93
ynwa250505 posted:

"TT"? Forgive my ignorance ...

I sold all my old (90s vintage) Naim kit a couple of years ago (I didn't think it would survive yet another Atlantic crossing) and am now getting back into the game. I've decided to go for the Nova/Core combo because I like that this is independent of physical networks and all that related stuff - it's a discrete solution with fewer boxes and yes, you just plug in some speakers. (However I know I will need a couple of extra boxes to run the LP12). Looking forward to hearing the Linn Keilidhs (floor standing, cherry finished, Ku-Stone-base, bi-wired) again - they sounded so beautiful driven by Naim. My wife's Qbs (two) will fit in well with this setup. My extensive collection of CDs and LPs get a new lease of life too. Just trying to work out which phono to go with though - hence the question ...

The great thing (for me) about streaming is our Spotify premium subscription. Music discovery is fascinating and being able to manage playing on an app is just too easy.

The HDX (etc) still has a place for those who prefer separates to a more integrated combo and the right collection of NAIM separates will undoubtedly deliver fantastic sound, though at a higher price point. Each to their own.

Yes, the Star does provide the functionality of Atom/Core, but I wanted a degree of separation from the ripping/storage functions in the interests of sound quality and (as I said) also wanted to avoid the complexities of a PC-based ripping solution. Not listened to the Star, but numerous threads seem very clear that the Nova's sound is superior (though I accept that SQ is solely in the ear of the listener).

Feel free to comment and thanks for your interest

TT, short for Turn Table.

I was trying to be the funny man!

Very unusual, a large percentage of the Forum has thousands of dollars invested your TT, and you are thinking about digging it out!

Thank you for being considerate to address all of my questions. 

I now have a better understanding, of how one can adjust to the times, and enjoy music without spending a arm and a leg!

Enjoy Your Music!

Thanks!

Allante93!

PS. Bought my LP 12 in 1986!

$1,486 USD, Fluted Walnut, Ittok, K9

Sold it 2015 $ 1,550 USD

Pre-Loved Naim Ain't Cheap! LOL......

Posted on: 22 September 2017 by Pev

Nova has arrived at last and although I mainly bought it for the improved streaming platform I put on some vinyl and now I can't stop listening to records! It sounds very lovely and a clear step up form my Superuniti - just better in every way. Go dig out that LP12 and prepare for a treat!

Happy now! 

 

Posted on: 19 October 2017 by ynwa250505
Pev posted:

Nova has arrived at last and although I mainly bought it for the improved streaming platform I put on some vinyl and now I can't stop listening to records! It sounds very lovely and a clear step up form my Superuniti - just better in every way. Go dig out that LP12 and prepare for a treat!

Happy now! 

 

Just wondered how things are sounding now that the new kit has been running and settled in?

My Nova & Core are still sitting in their boxes awaiting the completion of the rather large reno that we are halfway through - daren’t get them out yet ...

Posted on: 20 October 2017 by Eoink

My Nova arrived last Friday, and has been streaming IRadio or playing from the NAS  on loop since. It was pretty good out of the box, I gave it a few album listen on Wednesday, and it had improved quite a bit. It is very musical, has excellent grip on the PMC 25.23s giving good bass weight and slam, I'll only be using it as a streamer, so can't comment on the analogue side. It lacks the slam and drive of the NDX/82/HiCap/135s*2 B&W 804S system downstairs, but that's not particularly surprising. It's bloody good, and had me wanting to play just one more rather than going to bed.

Posted on: 20 October 2017 by Pev
ynwa250505 posted:

Just wondered how things are sounding now that the new kit has been running and settled in?

Hi - it's sounding better all the time - there has been no "roller coaster" of ups and downs in enjoyment, just steady improvement in terms of opening up the sound regarding spaciousness, bass grip and treble clarity etc.  - basically just more music. Every time I turn it on I am surprised at how good it sounds. You have a treat in store (literally!).

As I said, my main motivation was the technically improved streaming platform so the sound quality uplift from the SU has been a revelation. Having said that, the streaming upgrades are all that I hoped for in terms of flexibility and usability. Unlike other some other early adopters, I have yet to suffer a single glitch of any kind (where's the fingers crossed emoji when you need it?).

Pev

 

Posted on: 20 October 2017 by yeti42

With no powered input to run (and thus favour, they missed a trick there) a Naim phono stage you have a completely open choice. It will take 2 more boxes to get any Naim synergy which puts the home team at a disadvantage to some extent.

What is your cartridge or if you don't have one yet what are you thinking, cheap MM eg (AT95E for instance) or something a bit more serious?

Posted on: 20 October 2017 by joe9407

thought i'd chime in and offer the OP my two cents: i feel quite strongly that one should get a phono stage to match one's cartridge, not the rest of the system. the Stageline can be good and it can be lackluster, depending on what cartridge is used with it. 

so -- what cartridge do you have, or have in mind to get?

Posted on: 23 October 2017 by ynwa250505

Hi there,

The LP12 is currently being serviced (de-greased? lol). I’m having a Lyra Delos cartridge fitted - but am now unsure about the current tonearm - Basik Plus. I’d appreciate any advice/comments on the both the arm and the arm/cartridge combo. Thanks in advance ...

Posted on: 23 October 2017 by Richard Dane

That's a lot of cartridge to be hanging off a Basik Plus.  Better by far to upgrade the arm first.  I recall back in the day one of the favourite comparisons was two identical LP12s, but one with an LV-X arm and expensive MC and the other with an Ittok and linn Basik cartridge. The latter was much the more musically engaging combination.

Posted on: 23 October 2017 by ChrisSU

I agree with Richard, replacing a Basik with a used Ittok was the best thing I ever did to my LP12.

Posted on: 23 October 2017 by joe9407

i'll "third" the sage advice above -- upgrade the tonearm, get a lesser cartridge, and aim for a phono stage that matches the cartridge. for example: an Ittok, Linn Adikt cartridge, and a Lejonklou Gaio phono stage. or the same arm with a Dynavector 10x5 cartridge and Dynavector P75 phono. or hell, for roughly the same money as the Lyra i'd get an Aro with El Cheapo cartridge, such as the entry-level Audio Technica. 

(and the next upgrade after this would ideally be to the TT power supply.)