Proac Tablette Anniversary vs nSat

How disappointing for you. I've only ever heard the Tablettes in a dealer demo room on the end of Naim amplification, but was very impressed by the sound produced. Amazing bass for the size, terrific speed and great sound staging. If I were looking for stand mourners, these would be near top of the list.

Were you comparing them to a 2.1 nSat system? What amplification and source were you using? Your profile suggests you use the nSats for AV?

I admit willingly a bias toward ProAc, but despite that I'm amazed the nSats trounce the Tablettes so comprehensively.

May be, but  2 channel Sats are better by a big margin i compared them using UnitiLite either with cd source and copied files on pen drive.

Regards

Roberto

I'm very glad to hear this, as my N-Sats will soon be coming out of the loft, ending a long period of hibernation!

Roberto, have you ever tried the sats on your main system? I tried mine once with my then 552/300 and they were unbelievably good, like they were ten times bigger than they really are. 

One potential reason for the difference is that the Tabs may need more power than the Lite provides. 

Roberto, it may be that the Pro-Acs have not yet run in properly.  However, my experience of both Tablettes and n-Sats is that they are quite different in character.  If you love one you may not love the other so much.  And n-Sats are rather special...

Hi Richard,

In fact i'm going to get another pair of Sats instead. Even for build quality they are not worth 2k + euro or still worse 2.5k considering supports

Regards

Roberto

Many, many years ago I worked at Borehamwood Post Office and one day Paul of Proac walked in and we got talking and I ordered a pair of Tablette bi-amped in satin black, they came with the crossover in an external box and I bi-amped them using two Naim NAC 110's with a a 32.5 and a Hi-Cap. Front end was a Focus 3 turntable with SME arm and Ortofon VMS20E cartridge and I also had a Nakamichi 582 cassette deck. One of the most enjoyable systems I had, very musical.

So yes, I would agree, wait for them to run in.

Tim

Hungryhalibut posted:

Roberto, have you ever tried the sats on your main system? I tried mine once with my then 552/300 and they were unbelievably good, like they were ten times bigger than they really are. 

One potential reason for the difference is that the Tabs may need more power than the Lite provides. 

Hi Nigel,

No i didn't, i reckon Tablettes are not an easy load. However pound per pound at the end of a Qute or Lite, i much prefer the Sats.

It's a pity because i have fond memories of Tablettes at various Hi Fi fairs.

For example i playing a Fonè Records cd with a  Bach organ track, in order to achieve  a decent volume one of the woofers was clearly distorted.

Regards

Roberto

rsch posted:

.... i have fond memories of Tablettes at various Hi Fi fairs.

Back then they had ports and need space behind them.

C.

Sorry Roberto, I was a bit short there. What I was trying to say was that the version you have bought, infinite baffle etc., is conceptually different from the ported designs you have such fond memories of.

Personally, I'm surprised Proac have made this change, though I suspect they are attempting to cash in on the continuing success of the LS3/5a. Since we are talking of memories, my happiest recall of ported Tablettes was with the Musical Fidelity A100 and whatever source  one may care to put in front of it. But such whimsical reflection helps nobody. I wish you well with the small speaker project.

C.

Roberto have you tried the Tablette 10, I know they are cheaper than the anniversary model but wow they sound awesome.

The Tabs took a few weeks to bed in and still improving after several months, they sounded great on the end of the NAP100 I once owned but on the end of my 1985 NAP250 an end game for me.

Please forgive me, Roberto, and disregard all I've written. I thought your thread was about the Tablette 10 and have just realised my schoolboy error. Apologies.

C.

Hi Hifiman  & Chris,

Mine are Anniversary, hence a regular big port behind. I located them 40cm from rear wall, 3m apart (see my system pics post) and vast distance on either sides.

i also suspect that the regular Tablette 10 would be better for my own taste. i briefly listened the latter at a Milan fair last year and  for the little i heared. the sound was pretty open and clear with a good scale for their own size. I don't remember the electronics behind, but probably was a pretty potent US amp.

Regards

Roberto

rsch posted:

For example i playing a Fonè Records cd with a  Bach organ track, in order to achieve  a decent volume one of the woofers was clearly distorted.

Regards

Roberto

That's most difficult to present for speakers. Organ needs all. Low, mid, high and a good room.

This is where your S600 are needed.

Ardbeg10y posted:

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rsch posted:

For example i playing a Fonè Records cd with a  Bach organ track, in order to achieve  a decent volume one of the woofers was clearly distorted.

Regards

Roberto

That's most difficult to present for speakers. Organ needs all. Low, mid, high and a good room.

This is where your S600 are needed.

Absolutely !  however nSat  cope better with better control albeit at a smaller scale and depth.

Regards

Roberto

Have not heard the Anniversary's but the Tablet 10's are superb.  As said by other members, you may want run them in more before returning.  ProAc says 400 hours of run-in is required.  

May be but as i told above, with an organ track , the RH woofer made a bad craking noise 

Regards

Roberto

Ya canna bend the laws of physics.. jim

Hi R.,

you realize that the price of 2nd hand Sats has now undergone a radical increase?

;-)))

M.

Max_B posted:

Hi R.,

you realize that the price of 2nd hand Sats has now undergone a radical increase?

;-)))

M.

Hi Max,

Yes unfortunately, but good for you 

Regards

Roberto

I am a ProAc user for more than 10 years. I have several pairs for purely Audio & AV also. I had a ProAc Tablette Anniversary pair which I think it's character are more similar to Carbon Pro Series which I think it's one if the Best sounding character for ProAc house sound. Surprising it has a night and day different with nSat. I am quite confident to mention here that overall performance Tablette shall be better than nSat but it has different character than nSat just whether you like it not, and it should nothing to do with the sound quality in night & day different.

All i can say that these Tablette have a soporific presentation if compared to  usual Naim systems. when used with electronics of their own class. Not the mention their low sensibility and scarce ability on bass control. A special note to Atacama stands, the metal work, nuts & bolts is barely good for a construction site.

They are getting the way back to the dealer btw.

Regards

Roberto

Can we move to the tie break and get this over with as quickly as possible?

rsch posted:

All i can say that these Tablette have a soporific presentation if compared to  usual Naim systems.

Try them on some four pillar Target R stands, ~40cm from the wall with a Musical Fidelity A270 up them, Roberto.

C.

Timmo1341 posted:

Can we move to the tie break and get this over with as quickly as possible?

So, what's your problem ? 

Btw, i have just shipped them back to the dealer, so this argument  is over for me 

Kind Regards

Roberto