Naim and Qobuz

You can get Qobuz on your Atom using Googlecast. 

No direct integration, but using the Qobuz iphone or android app, you should be able to cast to the atom.  So in a sense it is supported.

Work around or low res options don't count, should be integrated.

I'd love to see it integrated, for sure.  The absence of Qobuz support is probably the primary reason I don't have an NDX on trial.  With the Atom though, I'm not sure why you think the cast option is low res, or a work-around for that matter.  

Obsydian posted:

Work around or low res options don't count, should be integrated.

Well, it isn't, and won't be, so that's that. You bought it quite happily. If you'd wanted integrated Qobuz you could have bought a Linn. 

Hungryhalibut posted:

Obsydian posted:

Work around or low res options don't count, should be integrated.

Well, it isn't, and won't be, so that's that. You bought it quite happily. If you'd wanted integrated Qobuz you could have bought a Linn. 

That was not the point, the point was why associate with a hires provider you don't even offer a solution for.

I don't believe there is any association whatsoever. The link to the awards simply indicates that Naim and Qobuz are supporting the awards, rather than each other. 

Is this a deliberate troll? From your link, Naim and Qobuz are both supporters of the Gramophone awards. Nothing there indicates any relationship between the two in any way.

Or are you going to whimper about the lack of integration between Naim and the Pan-Armenian Symphony Orchestra?

Looks like I stirred the lovies.

Serious question but blinkered responses.

Have you ever been camping?

Well Gary Shaws comment hits the nail on the obviously wrong statement in the first post. The given link simply does not indicate any association between Naim and Qobuz. 

Still it would be great though to have Qobuz directly integrated into the new streaming platform / software. Until then it is easily possible to stream Qobuz (even with the old product range) using the Bubble UPNP app instead of the Naim app... Works flawlessly. 

Obsydian posted:

Work around or low res options don't count, should be integrated.

Are you suggesting that there is a loss of sound quality with this method of streaming? If so, how have you established it to be the case? If not, it doesn't matter, does it. The point about the use of Google Cast is that support for native streaming from the app, as for Tidal, is unsustainable for the ever increasing range of web based services that are appearing, and I suspect that Naim's new streaming platform buffers the stream in such a way that sound quality will be unaffected. 

Chromecast is built into the new players. The app is a controler. Qobuz for example is streamed directly to the player, not to the app and then to the player. The only difference with Tidal is that you are redirected to the Service's app to chose your tracks, a la Spotify Connect. Chromecast has 24/96 capability, even if no services use it for now.

Manu posted:

Chromecast is built into the new players. The app is a controler. Qobuz for example is streamed directly to the player, not to the app and then to the player. The only difference with Tidal is that you are redirected to the Service's app to chose your tracks, a la Spotify Connect. Chromecast has 24/96 capability, even if no services use it for now.

Thanks Manu - i read somewhere on the forum only Spotify/Tidal went direct, will try Chromecast as my primary mobile/tablets are Android as to be honest working from within the app is better than the Naim app.

Manu posted:

Chromecast is built into the new players. The app is a controler. Qobuz for example is streamed directly to the player, not to the app and then to the player. 

If it works this way, it would be a fine solution for me. I always thought that the android device does the streaming and its sound output would be routed to the player. (That would mean that system sounds would be routed to the player, too.)

Now the only question for me is, if it works reliable and gaplessly?

Manu posted:

Chromecast is built into the new players. The app is a controler. Qobuz for example is streamed directly to the player, not to the app and then to the player. The only difference with Tidal is that you are redirected to the Service's app to chose your tracks, a la Spotify Connect. Chromecast has 24/96 capability, even if no services use it for now.

Tried Tidal with Chromecast worked for about 30 secs into a track then nothing, Tidal app stopped play button not visible ahort while later started then stopped - all downloaded tracks.

Also did not like no album work (only the note icon) on the Nova. I did like that now on my phone or tablet I can access the audio controls with unlocking, so much easier access.

Swapped back to the Naim app whatever input I choose no album work just a note symbol, gave up and reset the Nova.

I will be sticking with the Naim app - shock/horror.

Obsydian posted:

So Naim support and associate with Q buz, but provide no Q buz support on there products.

https://www.gramophone.co.uk/awards/2017

I too wish it was integrated.

The Qobuz app can stream hi-res via Chromecast to the Atom, the main issue for me is lack of gapless playback (same with Chromecast Audio device) - other than that it works well, just a shame the protocol doesn't seem to support artwork and gapless.  I suspect there are software workarounds possible which might act as a bridge, but not found one on iOS as yet.

Manu posted:

 Chromecast has 24/96 capability, even if no services use it for now.

The Qobuz app will stream hi-res via Chromecast (HD purchases or Sublime+ subscription), it just won't do gapless playback.

Gary Shaw posted:

Is this a deliberate troll? From your link, Naim and Qobuz are both supporters of the Gramophone awards. Nothing there indicates any relationship between the two in any way.

Or are you going to whimper about the lack of integration between Naim and the Pan-Armenian Symphony Orchestra?

What's rubbed you up the wrong way?

Some months ago when Qobuz were advertising their new Sublime+ service I'm almost certain they listed Naim as partners in their blurb - can't find it with a quick look at their site and admittedly I may be wrong, but surely the OP's wish for integration is not unreasonable, just there may not be enough resources on either side to implement it.