Unity core + Naim DAC +555ps

Bit late asking for advice, either he is happy with the sound or he is unhappy, our opinions are just opinions?

I’ve just eaten risotto con lenticche. Why not ask your friend if it was a good dinner?

I ran an HDX with nDac/555PS and thought it very good. 

G

Hungryhalibut posted:

I’ve just eaten risotto con lenticche. Why not ask your friend if it was a good dinner?

I have always respected your replies

that one is not one of them

GraemeH posted:

I ran an HDX with nDac/555PS and thought it very good. 

G

Thanks for your helpful answer

 my job is training driving instructors to pass their exams to become a driving instructor 

we always tell them them the only stupid question is the one you don’t ask

so many thanks for not treating me like a idiot like the first 2 replies did.

Tony, It's good.  Very, very good...

However, I haven't compared against an NDS.  

Richard Dane posted:

Tony, It's good.  Very, very good...

However, I haven't compared against an NDS.  

Thanks Richard.

tonycurran1 posted:

Hungryhalibut posted:

I’ve just eaten risotto con lenticche. Why not ask your friend if it was a good dinner?

I have always respected your replies

that one is not one of them

I’d never treat you as an idiot. But if your friend needs to ask if a £9,000 source is any good, one must surely question the process by which they went about making their decision. 

Hungryhalibut posted:

tonycurran1 posted:

Hungryhalibut posted:

I’ve just eaten risotto con lenticche. Why not ask your friend if it was a good dinner?

I have always respected your replies

that one is not one of them

I’d never treat you as an idiot. But if your friend needs to ask if a £9,000 source is any good, one must surely question the process by which they went about making their decision. 

High horse

i have never made a mistake spring to mind

the forum does not force any member to answer a question does it?

Hi Tonycurram1,

What people is trying to say ( maybe in the wrong way ) is that, if he bought the equipment he should try it and check if the sound pleases him, that´s the most important after all.

The setup has everything to make him happy, I´m also looking for a good SH Ndac.

By the way what is the remaing equipment?

BR

RM

It will truly be a sad day if members have to think twice, or thrice, before asking a genuine question. There are others constantly posting far more worthy of such dismissive, acerbic reactions. Some of the responses I encounter here remind me of my worst teachers from the sixties.

I have to agree that it is somewhat bizarre that somebody spends nearly £9,500 on a source, and then wonders whether it was any good. Any audition before purchase? At minimum wage, it takes about 1,250 hours of work to make enough money (gross) for a Naim DAC and posh power supply. If one spends a small fortune (at least a small fortune for many, many people) without proper "research", one shouldn't be surprised that some feel this calls for a sharp comment...

Oops -- forgot the Core. Another 240 hours at minimum wage...

Timo posted:

Oops -- forgot the Core. Another 240 hours at minimum wage...

What's this obsession with minimum wage? Lots of judgemental stuff going on here. Reading the original post, it's simply a Naim purchaser asking a friend his or her opinion on the equipment. Who are you to assume no research was done prior to purchase? The old adage (and I paraphrase) of if you can't find something good or positive to say, say nothing at all springs to mind.

Obsession with minimum wage? As Hungrihalibut wrote, if one needs to ask whether certain equipment is any good after spending a small fortune (equalling about 1,500 hours of work at minimum wage), one can question that person's decision-making. It's a myth that there are no stupid question. Lots of actually. Q.E.D.

Sometimes the line between legitimate questions and mischievous provocations gets a little hard to distinguish — opinions will differ.  Tony’s friend with the new gear is likely in a better position to inform us than be informed by us — the Core being relatively new.

A few contributors here put a lot of effort and love into their responses, which is unique in my experience, similar places.  I think a drive-by post that asks a broad question and offers nothing in return may occasionally deserve a little tasteful derision, all for the good of the Forum, of course.  Nothing serious going on here, after all — just a little Hi-Fi talk and fun.

Carry on.

Nick

Timo posted:

Obsession with minimum wage? As Hungrihalibut wrote, if one needs to ask whether certain equipment is any good after spending a small fortune (equalling about 1,500 hours of work at minimum wage), one can question that person's decision-making. It's a myth that there are no stupid question. Lots of actually. Q.E.D.

 

 

What exactly do you think you have proven? Judgemental, patronising arrogance should have no place here. Your responses sadden me.

Obviously Tony's post has raised some concerns here - and I don't think anyone would countenance taking a punt on such expensive gear without first knowing what they were buying. 

However, the good news is that Tony's friend will doubtless be very pleased as it's an excellent source. 

As for some other comments here, best leave them be for now - it's always worth checking in the mirror and reflecting...

Thanks for your replies 

if worries me that member may worry that by asking a question they will be judged

would hate to see a great forum be turned into something like Facebook.

Hungryhalibut posted:

I’ve just eaten risotto con lenticche. Why not ask your friend if it was a good dinner?

"...un ottimo piatto unico, sano e nutrizionalmente completo, che abbina i cereali e i legumi con gusto e leggerezza."   - I'll imagine anyone getting to grips with this recipe will consider it a good dinner, HH,  unless of course they are of the 'meat and two veg' pursuasion like me,  in which case they'd probably leave the table and go listen to their new Naim kit just to make sure it's still sounding as good as they thought it was before dinner.

On an even more serious note (realising that food is a very serious subject to us all),  I have to say that many folks dipping their toe (even a 9,000 toe) into the magic pool of audio equipment will find a certain comfort in the knowledge that someone else (on this highly respected forum) has experienced the same feelings as they have with regard to their audio equipment choices.   Some of us live a life of wondering if we've done the right thing even though our ears may say 'yes', our brains may continue to ask 'but what if?'.

Our forum offers not only highly specialised advice, but also 'warm fuzzies' so often appreciated by those whose ears are coloured pink, not golden  (like me).

Roger 

I read Tony's friends question as meaning: 'how does my system compare to other peoples on the Forum/where does my system fit in the Naim hierarchy'.

It's nonchalance though seems to have attracted the criticisms of two schools of axe grinders: the Academics who believe hi-fi is a serious business where every change to a system has to be endlessly scrutinised and evaluated with scientific rigour; and the Puritan's  who think that Naim ownership has to be hard-earned economically in order for an individual to truly realise the worth of the kit they have just purchased.

Just my opinion of course.

ray

Richard Dane posted:

Obviously Tony's post has raised some concerns here - and I don't think anyone would countenance taking a punt on such expensive gear without first knowing what they were buying. 

However, the good news is that Tony's friend will doubtless be very pleased as it's an excellent source. 

As for some other comments here, best leave them be for now - it's always worth checking in the mirror and reflecting...

...but that knowledge of 'what they were buying' may have had to be acquired from a forum like this;  a year ago I bought a used CD555 without ever hearing one live (my dealer doesn't stock this model), so I was relying on the opinions of fellow audio enthusiasts expressed on this forum that these CD555 thingys are actually quite good... actually quite a few thousand pounds good. 

...and luckily they were right.

Hungryhalibut posted:

I’ve just eaten risotto con lenticche. Why not ask your friend if it was a good dinner?

I had a very good laugh. 

No offence to OP.

// Anders

rjstaines posted:

Richard Dane posted:

Obviously Tony's post has raised some concerns here - and I don't think anyone would countenance taking a punt on such expensive gear without first knowing what they were buying. 

However, the good news is that Tony's friend will doubtless be very pleased as it's an excellent source. 

As for some other comments here, best leave them be for now - it's always worth checking in the mirror and reflecting...

...but that knowledge of 'what they were buying' may have had to be acquired from a forum like this;  a year ago I bought a used CD555 without ever hearing one live (my dealer doesn't stock this model), so I was relying on the opinions of fellow audio enthusiasts expressed on this forum that these CD555 thingys are actually quite good... actually quite a few thousand pounds good. 

...and luckily they were right.

That's entirely understandable, but totally different from a bloke asking if his £9,000 purchase is any good once he's bought it. 

As I have the unity core I was able to tell him it’s a cracking bit of kit

and as I also have a 555ps on my NDS I knew what a massive difference the 555 makes to any naim kit

what I could not advice on was the Naim DAC as I don’t know if it’s as good or better than the internal Dac fitted to the NDS.

he has heard my system which includes the 282/SC/250 speakers B&W 804D3

he has the supernait and as yet as not got speakers

i advised him to buy the speakers from a Naim dealer as not only does he need to hear them in his own living room but also check with the Naim dealer that he buys speakers that the supernait will drive with ease.