my first Naim is a SL2, can you help please

Hi Dan,

no toe in usually, although a few degrees is used by some. Really hard up against a solid wall is best.

Try contacting Tom Tom audio as there was talk a while back about him sourcing new grills.

Welcome to the Forum!

Stu

Dan, if you haven't already done so then do have a read through the SL2 setup instructions in the FAQ.  Also, check the drive unit bolt torque - 3.6Nm on the mid bass drivers, and the same on the interface plates.  

Mine are very slightly toed in. The insides are 92mm from the wall and the outsides are 97mm.  I have found 90 to 100mm gives the best balance between bass drive and openness. 

It's well worth reading the setup guid and getting them set up as perfectly as you can, so that the main speaker box oscillates, while the tweeter remains stationary. They can sound pretty poor if they are not set up properly, but when set up right they are absolutely wonderful. 

Out of interest, what is the rest of the system? 

thank you guys

i'll play around with it , let you know what happens...

as to my system:

sources :

Turn Table: Thorens DT 240/2 (very simple, but over the years I found I like a TT that is plug and play; it gets me to use it more often)

Small Phono Stage by Sim / Moon Audio 110LP

Digital: Cary DMS500 DAC/STRAEMER ( just love it, does everything great )

Pre Amp: Sim Moon P-5 (2 part preamp 20 or so years old,  unbelievable great unit )

power Amp: Sonic Frontiers the power amp 1 ( 20 or so years old, they just don't make them like this anymore (not at their price ))

6550 T.S. NOS tubes

Cabling : all kind of good or better cables by A.r.t. Kimber... more

dedicated power line, with iSOL-8

basic Rack

BUT

if you ask me next week, it might be a diferent system all together

thanks

Dan 

That is an interesting system as 99% of Naim 'speakers are powered by Naim amplification I would guess. It will be interesting to hear how you get on with setting them up and, of course, how they sound. Were you thinking of jumping in to the world of Naim or just taking a chance that they will work well with your electronics?

Stu

stuart.ashen hallo

I never really thought of that, I like Naim and think it is a great co.

But I do think they do some things better and some not as good .

also quite expensive...

plus , I like tube stuff and have a smart home (so I need good control over the units)

last but not least, the newly merger with FOCAL my not do good for the legacy of the Naim Brand....

but all options are on the table (as Trump sais     )

No worries Dan, it's your system and the SL2s are a good looking design. I hope they work in your home context. But if not you should have little difficulty moving them on. Fingers crossed.

Stu

Hungryhalibut posted:

Mine are very slightly toed in. The insides are 92mm from the wall and the outsides are 97mm.  I have found 90 to 100mm gives the best balance between bass drive and openness. 

 

@HH: Is that measured from wall to wood or metal? And is the floor straight (i.e. top and bottom corner same distance from wall?). Thanks, W.

That is the distance from the wall to the back of the wooden box at the very top of the speaker. So the metal parts and crossover are a lot closer. The stand at the bottom is closer, because of the skirting board  

I’m not sure what you mean by ‘is the wall straight’. The speakers are absolutely vertical, measured with a spirit level. 

To the top of the speaker. Thanks, I thought that was what you meant but I wasn’t sure. I live in a listed building. The walls are not completely straight and the suspended parquet floor is not completely level. So if I move the speakers they may no longer be vertical. The dealer set them up originally and then the cleaning lady did some fine tuning...

It’s essential to have them vertical so that the tweeter arms are vertical and move properly, and do the main connects oscillate as they should. We have a boring modern house, but the level concrete floor does have its benefits. 

William, as HH writes above, the SL2s need to be absolutely vertical.  Any moving them around - even a tiny amount - and they need to be set-up afresh for optimum performance. It is possible to set them up on uneven floors and wonky walls, but you need to ensure that all is kept level and vertical. A good quality spirit level is mandatory here. Have a careful read through of the set-up instructions in the FAQ.  Then follow to the letter. Take your time.  If you need to, make a cup of tea or coffee, then go back start again.  "Plonk and play" these are definitely not...

William posted:

Thanks, 

William, it was really nothing. 

Dreadful!

God knows...

Richard Dane posted:

William, as HH writes above, the SL2s need to be absolutely vertical.  Have a careful read through of the set-up instructions in the FAQ.  Then follow to the letter. Take your time.

Richard, what are Sunday afternoons for? The instructions in the FAQs were a great help, thank you. As you suspected, my SL2s needed TLC again. I was a bit unnerved to discover that my dealer, who prides himself in being an expert in setting up these divas (as he puts it), had fitted the washers the wrong way up. A small detail but it made me wonder. I followed your instructions to the letter and am enjoying the results! Incidentally, mine are 190 cm apart and giving best results 125 mm from the wall with a 3 mm toe-in. Cheers, William

Getting the washers the wrong way up is a classic mistake. Glad you sorted. It's a little thing but it all adds up.