Chord DACs

Posted by: Nina on 06 October 2017

I am interested in trying some sort of Chord Dac

Does anyone have any experience of them ?

Thanks for any help

Posted on: 04 November 2017 by Nina

The sound is opening up a bit now and it certainly does boogie very well and it definitely has the Naim sound which I guess is no surprise really.  It does have a nice richness to the sound which I like but at this point I won't comment on it against the Hugo

Still can't get it to play a WAV file from USB though so don't know if I will be able to update the firmware just yet

Posted on: 04 November 2017 by Nina

Just did another re-format (with a different format) of the USB stick and I can now play the WAV file so I know that stick can update the firmware which I will do once I've finished with Dac tonight...

Posted on: 04 November 2017 by Mulberry

Hi Nina,

the nDACs richness was something I noticed immediately and the main reason I bought one . But take your time and put the Chord back into your system once you have a solid impression of the nDAC.

Posted on: 04 November 2017 by Nina
Mulberry posted:

Hi Nina,

the nDACs richness was something I noticed immediately and the main reason I bought one . But take your time and put the Chord back into your system once you have a solid impression of the nDAC.

Mulberry at least my thoughts about the richness I hear was correct as you also experienced this...

Now the manual about upgrading the firmware says it must be disconnected from the mains, however it then goes on to say "Start the Dac and make sure it's up and running"... rather contradictory

But I am guessing the Dac obviously needs to be powered up to be able to do the firmware upgrade

 

Posted on: 04 November 2017 by Mulberry

Hi Nina,

according to the German manual, which is the one I used for updating my DAC, you should power up the DAC and once it is ready to go, insert the USB into the front port. I hope this helps.

Posted on: 04 November 2017 by Nina

Thanks Mulberry that's what I came up with

I am loving the sound of the Dac, it does boogie so well like most Naim items that I have got used to in my little experience of Naim so far, however the richness was a surprise and the detail is amazing..  it does sound very 'real' indeed

I would also describe the Dac is "solid sounding" .... but I have no idea if that makes any sense to anyone...

Whatever it's very "foot tapping"...  I love it so far...

Posted on: 04 November 2017 by Innocent Bystander
Nina posted:

That's what I thought MDS thanks I will re-format both USBs

My initial thoughts on the sound of the Dac is "boogie"   

Wish I understood what boogie meant in terms of sound...  I tried to explore once before but didn't end up much wiser!

Posted on: 04 November 2017 by Nina
Innocent Bystander posted:
Nina posted:

That's what I thought MDS thanks I will re-format both USBs

My initial thoughts on the sound of the Dac is "boogie"   

Wish I understood what boogie meant in terms of sound...  I tried to explore once before but didn't end up much wiser!

Hi IB it's a tricky one to explain for me as I'm not very good at it  

I think what I mean is that the 'boogie factor' is that whatever I throw at the Dac it always makes me hum along to it and it gets my foot tapping instantly... does that make any sense ?

Posted on: 04 November 2017 by Innocent Bystander
Nina posted:
Innocent Bystander posted:
Nina posted:

That's what I thought MDS thanks I will re-format both USBs

My initial thoughts on the sound of the Dac is "boogie"   

Wish I understood what boogie meant in terms of sound...  I tried to explore once before but didn't end up much wiser!

Hi IB it's a tricky one to explain for me as I'm not very good at it  

I think what I mean is that the 'boogie factor' is that whatever I throw at the Dac it always makes me hum along to it and it gets my foot tapping instantly... does that make any sense ?

Hmmm, takes me back to What is the fixation about foot tapping? thread earlier this year! I think the problem is that I just don't understand why people seem to want to tap their feet regardless of the music - I find that sometimes I tap my foot to some music, never to other music, it being a function of the music and my mood, and makes no difference what system, or whether live or recorded.

Posted on: 04 November 2017 by Nina

I have no "fixation' about the foot tapping bit IB but certainly the Naim stuff I have does make my foot tap... can't help myself... and I like it to be honest but everyone is different I guess and to me it's a revelation compared to my previous valve amps/system before I got anything Naim...

Posted on: 04 November 2017 by Nina

I guess the important thing about this hifi malarkey is that we enjoy the sound that is produced by whatever equipment we have and I have to say my enjoyment has been elevated by my new experience with everything Naim that I have recently acquired and I suppose that's all that matters

Posted on: 04 November 2017 by james n
Nina posted:

I guess the all important thing about this hifi malarkey is that we enjoy the sound that is produced by whatever equipment we have 

Indeed. Have fun 

Posted on: 04 November 2017 by Nina

Thanks James N...   I am certainly having fun...  the new Naim Dac is also lovely...

Posted on: 04 November 2017 by Innocent Bystander
james n posted:
Nina posted:

I guess the all important thing about this hifi malarkey is that we enjoy the sound that is produced by whatever equipment we have 

Indeed. Have fun 

Most certainly, with whatever DAC

Posted on: 04 November 2017 by Nina

IB I love what the Naim Dac is giving me sound wise but I will swap back to the Hugo at some point and then decide which one stays in the system... they are both very good indeed yet completely different...

Posted on: 04 November 2017 by Christopher_M
Nina posted:

IB I love what the Naim Dac is giving me sound wise but I will swap back to the Hugo at some point and then decide which one stays in the system... they are both very good indeed yet completely different...

Cannot believe you have missed my question about the FCXS on the previous page and Simon's subsequent informed point.

Posted on: 04 November 2017 by MDS
Christopher_M posted:
Nina posted:

IB I love what the Naim Dac is giving me sound wise but I will swap back to the Hugo at some point and then decide which one stays in the system... they are both very good indeed yet completely different...

Cannot believe you have missed my question about the FCXS on the previous page and Simon's subsequent informed point.

I definitely missed it, Chris. A Flatcap can't be used on an nDAC, can it? Minimum external PSU is XP5XS, I think.  But I might be missing your point altogether.

Posted on: 04 November 2017 by French Rooster
Christopher_M posted:
Nina posted:

IB I love what the Naim Dac is giving me sound wise but I will swap back to the Hugo at some point and then decide which one stays in the system... they are both very good indeed yet completely different...

Cannot believe you have missed my question about the FCXS on the previous page and Simon's subsequent informed point.

nina is exited by her new naim dac......i understand very well.  She certainly has forgotten your question....

Posted on: 04 November 2017 by Christopher_M
MDS posted:
Christopher_M posted:
Nina posted:

IB I love what the Naim Dac is giving me sound wise but I will swap back to the Hugo at some point and then decide which one stays in the system... they are both very good indeed yet completely different...

Cannot believe you have missed my question about the FCXS on the previous page and Simon's subsequent informed point.

I definitely missed it, Chris. A Flatcap can't be used on an nDAC, can it? Minimum external PSU is XP5XS, I think.  But I might be missing your point altogether.

Quite right Mike, it can't.

Perhaps to make things as simple of possible I'll just repeat the question: "At some point, are you going to remove whichever dac completely and feed [both] your CD5XS and Nait XS2 with a FCXS power supply?"

Posted on: 04 November 2017 by Nina

Are we talking about a Flat Cap to be used with the CD5XS and Nait XS2/SN2?

If so the answer is NO as I have no urge to try any of my Naims with a power supply... just my thoughts.. as I think the Naim Dac can stand up by itself used with the bare XS2 or SN2

The Naim Dac is currently being paired with the SN2 and CD5XS and it seems fine to me

Posted on: 04 November 2017 by Innocent Bystander
MDS posted:
Christopher_M posted:
Nina posted:

IB I love what the Naim Dac is giving me sound wise but I will swap back to the Hugo at some point and then decide which one stays in the system... they are both very good indeed yet completely different...

Cannot believe you have missed my question about the FCXS on the previous page and Simon's subsequent informed point.

I definitely missed it, Chris. A Flatcap can't be used on an nDAC, can it? Minimum external PSU is XP5XS, I think.  But I might be missing your point altogether.

I think the idea was compare CD5XS and its internal DAC but it and the Nait elevated with fCXS, with basic CD5XS into eithevnDAC or Hugo (but happy to be corrected if wrong)

Posted on: 04 November 2017 by MDS

Ah! Ok Chris. I see what you're getting at now. I did indeed have the wrong end of the stick.

PS think we both best avoid talking football after today's results 

Posted on: 04 November 2017 by Christopher_M

Ha Mike! I have not checked yours yet but I will have a look now. Certainly my lot are high order toshmongers on today's showing.

Posted on: 04 November 2017 by Innocent Bystander
French Rooster posted:

nina is exited by her new naim dac......i understand very well.  She certainly has forgotten your question....

I' be worried if Nina were to be exited by her DAC...

 

Sorry,  couldn't resist - I know English isn't your first language, and truly respect that your English is infinitely better than my French. I know you did of course mean she is excited (exit is to leave).

Posted on: 04 November 2017 by Nina
Innocent Bystander posted:
French Rooster posted:

nina is exited by her new naim dac......i understand very well.  She certainly has forgotten your question....

I' be worried if Nina were to be exited by her DAC...

 

Indeed , exited is perhaps the wrong word.. however I do like the sound of the Naim Dac