Blimey, the 272 is even better than I thought it was...

Spotify / AV2 / Nait 5 into BW CM5's: clearly audible barking dog. (prices of av2 and nait5 instantly raising on the bay)

But the setup is very well done of course :-)

This brings me to an observation. I noticed a while ago that I did all detailed discoveries on the better system. Once I spotted something - like a sneezing violist, a too loud breathing singer, the moving players of the orchestra, I could clearly hear them on the less detailed system. Its how we work. It was rarely the other way around.

Another thought. I was visiting an exposition in the Boymans van Beuningen Museum - Rotterdam - somewhere around 2000. There was a video showing a barking dog. When we were in the next room, my friend who joined me asked 'did you hear the dog barking'. I said 'yes'. I was wrong. My mind completely tricked me and filled in the sound of a barking dog.

Quite a few years back now, I was on the A1(M) coming back from my younger daughter's Uni in Nottingham, with her worldly goods in the boot, to civilisation back in the south and we got totally stuck in a huge traffic jam that lasted hours. Coming off at a service area for a burger only made things worse. So we got to a place where we agreed that one of us could play a CD track of their choice on the car stereo and then the other could do the same.

She chose something I have completely forgotten that lasted the usual 3 minutes or so and then I had my go and put on "Inside Out" the title track from an excellent Keith Jarrett album. It lasts 21 mins which I thought was a result, but she has regarded as unfair in a mild background sort of way ever since....

best

David

Sneezing, barking, shuffling, snuffling - and there was me thinking hifi was about music! I told you I knew where this was headed.

Timmo1341 posted:

Sneezing, barking, shuffling, snuffling - and there was me thinking hifi was about music! I told you I knew where this was headed.

It adds something. I watch the Berliner Philharmoniker frequently and I'm used to the applause etc ... When listening to a high res version without all these 'details', it leaves me with the feeling that I miss something.

I suspect the XPS he had was duff if people can hear it with a bare 272 or when powered by a 555. 

I think it's a common problem, I recently visited a chap in Emsworth who was very keen to sell me a cardboard box with some free electronics. I didn't buy but understand that soon afterwards he legged it off to Milan.

I too like the atmosphere, which makes everything very real. Another album for you to try: Musique de Nuit, by Ballaké Sissoko and Vincent Segal. Recorded outdoors in Africa at night, you can hear owls hooting and lorries driving past, amongst other things. It’s a brilliant record, and it really is like you are there. The sound quality is just stunning. 

Hungryhalibut posted:

I too like the atmosphere, which makes everything very real. Another album for you to try: Musique de Nuit, by Ballaké Sissoko and Vincent Segal. Recorded outdoors in Africa at night, you can hear owls hooting and lorries driving past, amongst other things. It’s a brilliant record, and it really is like you are there. The sound quality is just stunning. 

Will buy, thanks.

David Hendon posted:

Quite a few years back now, I was on the A1(M) coming back from my younger daughter's Uni in Nottingham, with her worldly goods in the boot, to civilisation back in the south and we got totally stuck in a huge traffic jam that lasted hours. Coming off at a service area for a burger only made things worse. So we got to a place where we agreed that one of us could play a CD track of their choice on the car stereo and then the other could do the same.

She chose something I have completely forgotten that lasted the usual 3 minutes or so and then I had my go and put on "Inside Out" the title track from an excellent Keith Jarrett album. It lasts 21 mins which I thought was a result, but she has regarded as unfair in a mild background sort of way ever since....

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David

All well and good David but have you got a dog?

Well no, not as such. But we have been saving newspapers for our neighbour who has seven incontinent puppies to cope with..

And we have two cats which are bigger than many dogs....

Having had cats I now resist all such suggestions.  Imagine if you’d done £7k or more on a full Super Lumina loom and cat or dog chewed through it. 

They wouldn't do that.

But they do get gymnastically involved in the HiFi, see my avatar for an example! (She's the smaller of the two but isn't small per se and at 7 kilos does cause a little wobble when she jumps).

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David

Makes sense that you don’t have vinyl

It's amazing I was listening to Kind of Blue on my iPhone yesterday when I'm sure I heard John Coltrane 'let one go' in one of the quite passages amazing thing is when I listen to it on my main system I couldn't hear it but come to think of it it might have been a passing dog.

In the middle of Brinsley Schwarz's 'Egypt' (from the Silver Surfer album), a dog suddenly starts barking. When Elvis Costello covered this for a Tribute to Nick Lowe, he made sure that the dog bark was in there again.

Nils Frahm has a cat purring loudly on his Late Night Tales album.

Bob the Builder posted:

It's amazing I was listening to Kind of Blue on my iPhone yesterday when I'm sure I heard John Coltrane 'let one go' in one of the quite passages...

He was prone to the occasional bum note but usually covered his tracks so well that only the cognoscenti noticed.

G

I swear I just detected the harmonics created by the gentle swaying of a snail's tentacles interacting with the slither of its foot sliding on the mucous secretions as it inches it's way through the inky blackness at the end of the Dusty Snails track on the album 'Songs From The Shoebox' by, you guessed it, The Snails!! The wonders of modern technology, eh?

I had to read ‘tentacles’ twice!

Ravenswood10 posted:

I had to read ‘tentacles’ twice!

That's just your mucky mind!!

XPS-DR arrived this morning. It's still warming up but gosh what a difference it makes to the 272.

Top end is sweeter and bass more refined, less cluttered. The whole sound is more detailed, smoother and silkier. I thought my system sounded pretty good without the XPS, but now I realise it was a tad coarse and unrefined in comparison.

Next is to upgrade the amp to a 250DR, then my upgrade itch will have been well and truy scratched.

Atherton posted:

XPS-DR arrived this morning. It's still warming up but gosh what a difference it makes to the 272.

Top end is sweeter and bass more refined, less cluttered. The whole sound is more detailed, smoother and silkier. I thought my system sounded pretty good without the XPS, but now I realise it was a tad coarse and unrefined in comparison.

Next is to upgrade the amp to a 250DR, then my upgrade itch will have been well and truy scratched.

Go on, 272 + 555DR & 300DR

You know you want it...  Go on!

Yes a mere 272/XPSDR/250 is now deemed to be inadequate. You need to move quickly to 555 and 300DR.....

Yes without Statement a dog’s bark will not be adequately portrayed.   

You must be joking.

I think, wth a 250DR, I'll have a well balanced system. Any further PSU + amp upgrade would only lead to needing new speakers....

Speaking of which, have you noticed that HH's avatar bears an uncanny resemblence to his SL2 speakers, or vice versa. Spooky.

On reflection, sincere apologies if my last post caused any offence to HH, his avatar or his speakers. It was wrong of me to make a personal reference.