A boring new day.

Posted by: Massimo Bertola on 21 October 2017

Yesterday I visited my dealer, and they were demoing the Nova. I've heard it with Neat Motive SX2 and SX3. Nothing sounded like Naim. The Nova is just the opposite of its dad, the SuperUniti: limpid, pleasing, detailed and full of 3D imaging. Gentle and jolly in character, mildly exuberant, devoid of all possible true-to-reality-ness, the one that made Naim so opinion-dividing and interesting.

The Neats are just a pair of boxes with an expensive tweeter, and sound like if they were a call operator reading Shakespeare. They are expensive too. In a way I am glad that the great Naim era is over: now I can give myself to reminiscing, which – in spite of my therapist's opinion – is my preferred sport.

Posted on: 21 October 2017 by Richard Dane

Please could members refrain from lazy stereotyping - it's usually inaccurate and unfailingly causes offense.

Posted on: 21 October 2017 by Richard Dane
David Hendon posted:

I feel the padded cell is threatening (unless Richard has the weekend off).

best

David

David,

"weekend off"..??!

However, you're absolutely right about the Padded Cell.

Posted on: 21 October 2017 by nigelb

I see this has been kicked into the long grass, only a matter of time I guess.

Does that mean we can start talking about biscuits again. I love biscuits.

Posted on: 21 October 2017 by Eloise
nigelb posted:

I see this has been kicked into the long grass, only a matter of time I guess.

Does that mean we can start talking about biscuits again. I love biscuits.

Jaffa Cakes too?

Posted on: 21 October 2017 by Sloop John B

Now if Naim could only manage to get these into the new Uniti products dem rooms, ..................

 

 

they'd be on to a sure winner

.sjb

Posted on: 21 October 2017 by notnaim man

Now we are back on biscuits....

My favourites were always Royal Scot which sadly seem to have disappeared and Festival Creams. I know no-one else who can remember these biscuits that Mum told me came onto the market at the Festival Of Britain.

So I resort to Border Biscuits sharing box, except that I don't.

Posted on: 21 October 2017 by Erich

Why only biscuits?

 

Posted on: 22 October 2017 by Bob the Builder
J.N. posted:

Glad to hear it Max.

I suppose I'm essentially railing against mass-market mediocrity and the rapid rate of change - not all of it necessarily for the better.

The upside is that (and this is the big one!) if the source material and equipment is up to snuff; modestly priced kit has never sounded better.

John.

I agree with your sentiments John and as a builder I'm amazed at the amount people spend on and their absolute pleasure with something which allows them to remotely turn the lights on and off and the heating up and down.

Posted on: 22 October 2017 by Huge
DBS-Al posted:

I like those biscuits with the cows on.

Don't let the cows stand on your biscuits, they'll break them (or eat them).

Posted on: 22 October 2017 by DBS-Al

Thanks for the advice Huge, I suppose it depends on what sort of "Mooood" they are in.

Posted on: 22 October 2017 by Huge

A stomping good one, especially if you use a Naim system for them so they get lots of PRaT!

Posted on: 22 October 2017 by Stephen Tate
Max_B posted:

The Neats are just a pair of boxes with an expensive tweeter, and sound like if they were a call operator reading Shakespeare. 

Funny, because it was the tweeter that Neat changed when they revamped their Motive range. They could of changed the main unit too but decided to stick with it, mmm...

I ran Credos for twenty years and really enjoyed them in active and passive modes, really getting to the heart of the music, I never thought I would ever let them go to be honest... 

I am now running a pair of Motive SX2 speakers on my NAIT 5si and although they have a rather more 'forgiving' presentation to my Credos, i'm still enjoying the music more than ever, still very 'Naim' to these ears!!

I am finding that with the new (just as exciting) sound that one can listen for much longer periods than ever before, turning the volume up much higher than ever before, which is helping me become much more immersed in a different way, than I ever could wish to be with my Credos.

Horses for courses an all.

Happy listening!!

 

Posted on: 22 October 2017 by Hook

Time out. Does a U.K. biscuit cover the full range of U.S. biscuits through cookies?  Is it only softer cookies that don’t qualify as U.K. biscuits?

By the way, it is very tough to beat a South African Romany Cream. Crunchy chocolate with coconut, not too sweet. Yum.

Posted on: 22 October 2017 by ChrisSU
Hook posted:

Time out. Does a U.K. biscuit cover the full range of U.S. biscuits through cookies?  Is it only softer cookies that don’t qualify as U.K. biscuits?

Biscuit is a French word, and it means ‘cooked twice’ which is how they were originally made, and why they are hard. So a cookie cannot be a biscuit. 

Posted on: 22 October 2017 by Huge

In the UK...

A biscuit goes soft when left in the open air.

A cake goes hard when left in the open air.

Established in case law.

Posted on: 22 October 2017 by David Hendon
Huge posted:

In the UK...

A biscuit goes soft when left in the open air.

A cake goes hard when left in the open air.

Established in case law.

Which is why we don't pay VAT on Jaffa Cakes, because they are in law biscuits and hence tax exempt....

Posted on: 22 October 2017 by sjbabbey

Yummy.

Posted on: 22 October 2017 by Huge
David Hendon posted:
Huge posted:

In the UK...

A biscuit goes soft when left in the open air.

A cake goes hard when left in the open air.

Established in case law.

Which is why we don't pay VAT on Jaffa Cakes, because they are in law biscuits and hence tax exempt....

Actually it shows that they're cakes - which is why we don't pay VAT.

Posted on: 22 October 2017 by David Hendon

Ah well I stand corrected and should have paid more attention to the issue then.

i still prefer plain chocolate digestives, vat or not!

best

David

Posted on: 22 October 2017 by The Strat (Fender)

Yes but which brand of plain chocolate digestives?

Posted on: 22 October 2017 by Mulberry

Now that's easy: Albert Heijn Lichtbruintjes, if you happen to be in the Netherlands.

Posted on: 22 October 2017 by David Hendon

But if you are in the UK, McVitie's rule of course.

Posted on: 22 October 2017 by The Strat (Fender)

In a blind tasting I challenge you to choose between Lidl and McVities

Posted on: 22 October 2017 by Haim Ronen

I think that a new BB term is in a process of being defined here: Biscuit Brain..

Posted on: 30 October 2017 by yeti42

I was in a blind tasting of digestives, not chocolate ones unfortunately. When it was unblinded I found it was the McVities I’d prefered, they were only up against some supermarket own brand ones and some trial reduced fat ones though. The latter all came last.