I'm streaming!!

Posted by: stuart on 31 October 2017

So far so good. Purchased Synology Nas and two 3tb wd red drives. Started ripping via dbpoweramp and music successfully streaming to Muso via wired connection. This is in preparation for the arrival of the 272 /250 and hopefully all will work fine when this arrives.

I plan to keep the Nas in the lounge with my main system as the router and switch are located there. This will enable me to maybe purchase a good quality ethernet cable (if people think this is worth it)?

I would also like advice as to where to plug in the Nas, either via a normal mains socket or on the dedicated mains supply.

Thanks 

Posted on: 31 October 2017 by hafler3o
stuart posted:

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I would also like advice as to where to plug in the Nas, either via a normal mains socket or on the dedicated mains supply.

Thanks 

I'd keep all that commercial NAS, switch, router stuff off the dedicated supply. I keep mine in an office and run a very long ethernet cable rather than a short boutique cable and closeby electronics. I tried a number of combos and for me 25m of ethernet was by far the better option than sharing space and/or supply with the other stuff. Always worth experimenting though, but give it all time and get used to the 'sound' before trying to compare before and after scenarios.

Posted on: 31 October 2017 by Harry

As above. The NASs are powered on a different circuit from the dedicated mains spur. The hub is on the other side of the house with a long Ethernet cable hooking it to a switch in the lounge. I don't know if any of this makes a difference. It just seemed logical to do.

If the NAS/router/cabling allows a MuSo to stream, dropping a 272 in to replace the MuSo should be easy and painless.

Posted on: 31 October 2017 by Innocent Bystander

In case you're not already aware, one consideration to bear in mind, and much easier to do from the start: make sure the metadata of your files is correct and consistent. I made the mistake of believing that the metadata from ripped CDs and downloaded flac files was fine, only to discover many hundreds of albums later that a significant proportion had missing, incorrect or inconsistent metadata, by then a major PITA to start trying to fix. It is worst with classical: by way of example of inconsistency, genre of different recordings of the same thing can appear variously as simply classical, or orchestral, or symphony. Composer can be WA Mozart, Mozart WA, Wolfgang Armadeus Mozart. Recording artist might be the orchestra, the conductor, or the soloist. Etc etc. Makes searching and browsing difficult.

So it pays to have in mind how you want things to be (good to have a few ripped files and downloads first to help inform you)  then view the metadata of each album as soon as ripped/downloaded.

 

Posted on: 31 October 2017 by Adam Zielinski

Spot on advice from [@mention:41551091830475636] with regards to the metadata.

Best to keep your nwtwork gear on a separate mains spurr.

As to 'streaming cables' - there is some benefit. But I would not get too worried about that for now. Once your system has settled down, an XPS was added ( &nbsp, PowerLines sorted, SuperLumina DIN-XLR and speaker cables put in place, you could possibly think about a posh ethernet cable.... Hope this answers your question

Adam

Posted on: 31 October 2017 by ChrisSU

My Synology was a little noisy when I first set it up, and I wouldn’t have wanted that level of constant noise in the living room. It turned out to be the fan, which was set by default to be permanently on. Easily remedied in the settings menu once I’d figured out where to look. 

Posted on: 31 October 2017 by stuart

Thanks for the replies. I will keep everything separate from the dedicated mains. 

I haven't had time to check the meta data tbh and I'm not sure how to do that yet with minimserver. I will hopefully get some time this weekend to try and figure it out. If I get stuck.......... 

Posted on: 31 October 2017 by Mike-B

Stuart,  if it gives you some comfort, I ripped 500 (ish) CD’s to my new Synology NAS with dBpoweramp before my NDX arrived. I found very very few that needed to have metadata corrected/improved;   and on the positive side of that, I learnt all about how to manage metadata becaus of those few problems. The most problems that dBpoweramp auto loaded I found were  with classical recordings,  popular, rock & most jazz were pretty much all correct.  

And you edit metadata with dBpoweramp, not Minimserver,  but whatever,  look on all this learning new skills & knowledge for the future,  it’s all part of streaming, & not exactly difficult.

Posted on: 01 November 2017 by stuart

Thanks. 

I had a quick check last night and most looks OK. Only one wrongly named album and one with missing artwork. 

Cultural heathen that I am, I don't listen to much classical so maybe I won't run into too many problems. 

The only thing I did notice which will need a fix is reorganising albums into more accurate genres. I haven't looked at how to do this yet. Can I ask if this can be done retrospectively eg after the rip is sent to the Nas drive? 

Posted on: 01 November 2017 by Eoink
stuart posted:
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The only thing I did notice which will need a fix is reorganising albums into more accurate genres. I haven't looked at how to do this yet. Can I ask if this can be done retrospectively eg after the rip is sent to the Nas drive? 

Yes it can. Mount the NAS as a drive on the PC, dbPoweramp will be able to edit the metadata as if it were local. I tend to use MP3tag to edit metadata after the riip, I find the editing UI nicer that dbPoweramp's, I'm dead happy with DBPoweramp as a ripper

MP3tag is shareware, so for occasional use you can treat it as free, I used it very heavily to fix over 1,000 albums when I moved from my HDX to a NAS/NDX setup, so sent Florian a donation.

Posted on: 01 November 2017 by ChrisSU
stuart posted:

The only thing I did notice which will need a fix is reorganising albums into more accurate genres. I haven't looked at how to do this yet. Can I ask if this can be done retrospectively eg after the rip is sent to the Nas drive? 

You can edit the metadata at any time, as long as you can locate the file on the NAS and open it in a metadata editor. Genre is a field that often needs editing - it's not unusual for similar albums by the same artist to have different genres, and some might be spelt in different ways. Correcting this sooner rather than later makes life easier. I find that you first need to think carefully about how you with to group your music so that it makes sense to you. Come up with a list of genres that you want to use, and put all your music into them.

Posted on: 06 November 2017 by stuart

Thanks for all the advice. Managed to fix some album art and genres over the weekend and now checking and adjusting before ripping.

I know many have said this before but I have listened to much more music over the past week simply due to the convenience of locating albums. 

I have been reluctant to switch to streaming over the past few years but so far so good. Bring on the 272/250. Maybe here for Christmas if I'm lucky.