Richard Thompson 'Rumor and Sigh' Mo-Fi double LP

Posted by: J.N. on 05 November 2017

Worth a dedicated post I think. I've long loved the 1991 album by our Richard. Mitchell Froom unfortunately killed it in mastering with heavy application of the 'dull' knob - or that's what it sounds like on the CD.

Enter this Mo-Fi remaster by Krieg Wunderlich on double 33 rpm vinyl. Aha! - life - at last.

Not cheap; and allegedly limited to a print run of 3,000, but grande grande!

John.

Posted on: 05 November 2017 by J.N.

PS. The current Amazon price is crazy. I got my copy from Juno Records.

John.

Posted on: 05 November 2017 by Clive B

I'm surprised that you find the CD sounds dull. I remember it being a really great sounding disc featuring some of his best songs. I even popped upstairs just now to get the CD out to check if I had a different version, but mine too is mastered by Mitchell Froom. I will play a few select tracks from it shortly just to check.

Posted on: 05 November 2017 by tonym

I agree with John Clive, the CD's not exactly a great example of the breed. Up there with my favourite Richard Thompson albums. My copy of the MFSL LP's on its way, should receive it tomorrow.

Posted on: 05 November 2017 by Clive B

Mmm... It seems my audio memory is not so good. I'm playing the WAV rip currently through the NDS. At moderate levels it does sound a bit dull. I see Juno is out of stock, but there's another source I've found at Scott Nangle Audio.

Posted on: 05 November 2017 by tonym

Be wary of Scott Nangle Clive. I had some issues where I'd ordered an LP from him & after paying up-front it took an age to arrive, with poor communication. Try What Records - I'm getting mine from them for a similar price. They were out of stock apparently but might be worth giving them a call.

Posted on: 05 November 2017 by Clive B

Phew! Just in time. Thanks, Tony. 

Posted on: 05 November 2017 by J.N.

Yup; Tony beat me to it Clive. I too, have heard only negative reports about that particular vinyl supplier.

Good call on 'What Records' by Tony. I learned about them showing the album at a good price after I'd paid a few quid more at Juno.

John.

Posted on: 05 November 2017 by Wugged Woy

I've had the MOFI SACD on pre-order for about a year now - still not released 

They say everything comes to those who wait.

OK, but for how long exactly ?

Posted on: 05 November 2017 by Mike-B
Clive B posted:

I'm surprised that you find the CD sounds dull. I remember it being a really great sounding disc featuring some of his best songs. I even popped upstairs just now to get the CD out to check if I had a different version, but mine too is mastered by Mitchell Froom. I will play a few select tracks from it shortly just to check.

I ripped my old CD when I first moved to streaming,  & agree it was a bit dull.  A while ago I replaced the rip with a 24/192 WAV & that really changed it for the better.    I just looked into Qobuz,  they have it at £9.99 (GBP)   compared to HDT (USA) at $20 for (I assume) the same release.    Qobuz show it as Capitol 1991/2016   HDT is 2016 

Thanks for the reminder,  its on the play list for later.

Posted on: 05 November 2017 by Premmyboy

I have the mofi double vinyl and it sounds great to me although I never owned it previously so have not been able to compare it to anything else.

Posted on: 06 November 2017 by fathings cat

I caught RT live at the Theatre Royal  in Norwich last week, very nice performance in a lovely venue.

I’ll have to look up the MOFI release as the Dylan MOFI’s have been excellent.  

Cheers for heads up

Gary

 

Posted on: 06 November 2017 by tonym

My vinyl copy's arrived this morning. Once our cleaning lady's disappeared I shall be giving it a good scratching with a small bit of diamond.

Posted on: 06 November 2017 by Eoink

I've got an early '80s vinyl pressing, I've just listened to Feel So Good and Vincent, the sound qulity is good. I saw him a couple of weeks ago at the Lowry, lovely gig.

Posted on: 07 November 2017 by AndyP19

Firstly many thanks for reminding me of what a wonderful album this is - such a great band.

Listening to WAV rip of my 1991 CD (Capital CDP 7 95713 2) not sure I'm hearing any dullness, maybe it's studio(s) ambience or the amp settings or the microphones they used. But if you guys are saying it's a dull recording then I respect your opinions - maybe that's how they wanted it to sound?

Mitchell Froom is using Tchad Blade and Paul Garcia who are top-rate Engineers plus Bob Ludwig did the mastering so I'm not sure what to believe other than my ears.

Posted on: 07 November 2017 by tonym

I managed to play my new vinyl MFSL album yesterday and, by George, it's a good 'un!

Posted on: 07 November 2017 by Cdb

I think I will stick with my original vinyl of this. It really is a shame that MFSL releases are so expensive in the UK.

You RT fans might be interested in a new release of two RT band concerts from 83 and 84 - 3CDs and 2 DVDs - Live at Rockpalast. What I have heard so far on the CDs is very good, but I've not yet tried the DVDs. It's announced on the RT Facebook pages so I presume it's above board and that he will be benefitting from the release

Posted on: 07 November 2017 by u77033103172058601

As a long time follower of RT - I first heard him in concert in Norwich with his then wife Linda over 40 years ago - I had to dig out my LP copy of R&S. Not sure, based on the comments above whether I should love or hate it, SQ-wise. In terms of  the music it sounds dull, though, which probably explains why I wasn't even sure whether I had a copy. It might be one of those that I played once and then stuck in the cabinet.

I have a Capital records LP. Just noticed that Gregson and Collister are credited with vocals

Probably need to have a comparative listening session (on a decent stereo rig).  

MFSL copies seem to be out of stock anyway, that has saved me a few pennies to spend elsewhere.

And although not entirely relevant, my experience of Nangle has been very mixed, very good or very bad. 

Posted on: 07 November 2017 by tonym

You'll have to bring your original R&S over sometime Nick, It'll be an interesting comparison. Or, having stumped up fifty quid for my copy, perhaps not...

Posted on: 07 November 2017 by u77033103172058601

Good idea. Perhaps there might be some cake..........

Posted on: 07 November 2017 by tonym
Nick from Suffolk posted:

Good idea. Perhaps there might be some cake..........

Just enjoying SWMBO's experimental tequila and lime drizzle cake. It isn't going to last long...

Posted on: 07 November 2017 by u77033103172058601

I would say I would drive over now, but not sure it would be safe to drive afterwards

Posted on: 17 November 2017 by u77033103172058601

Managed to compare/contrast the CD, my ancient LP and JN's new Mo-Fi LP today. The CD is an excellent coaster, but of otherwise little value. I don't think J.N will disagree.

The original and Mo-Fi were clearly better, but different mixes. The bottom end of the Mo-Fi was bit fruitier, which I quite liked, on JN's rather splendid 707s. Elsewhere there were minor differences, but hard to say which was better.

Just to confirm that this wasn't just a couple of vinylosauri slagging off CDs, we spent a good few minutes comparing 3 different (CD) versions of "So". The newly mastered 3 disc (2 live concerts) came out rather well. I should have taken my old LP along, silly me. Strangely the 26-disc set of King Crimson, the collection of which had been the purpose of my foray into Naaridge, remained strangley unplayed. 

 

Posted on: 18 November 2017 by Happy Listener

Nick - FYI it looks like What Records have re-stocked on the MF vinyl.

 

Posted on: 19 November 2017 by u77033103172058601

Thanks for the heads up, but I am not convinced enough to pay £50 for a slightly fruitier bottom end. Now if could do that for my bottom end at that price......

Posted on: 19 November 2017 by G. Warminger

Nick from S, where in my home city (Norwich) did you get the King Crimson? Sailors’ Tail boxed set I suppose?