Expensive Cables. Are they worth the Money?

Haim Ronen posted:

Innocent Bystander posted:

Haim Ronen posted:

You are living in a completely different world.

The essence of an audiophile is being constantly frustrated, confused, insecure and unhappy, all that with an extremely fragile ego, creating the right conditions for endless-useless upgrades with no time left to be wasted on listening to real music. There is no way around it. If this doesn't sound familiar then you are just not a member of our brilliant cult..

Oh dear, I’m clearly not an audiophile ‘cos I love to listen to and immerse myself in beautiful music with no distractions, hifi being my means to that end. I have tended to get it set up then forget about change for a few years, which is clearly not audiophile behaviour. Perhaps  I’m a a goodsoundophile combined with a musicophile...

Anyone with a ratio of 100:1 (or higher) in posting on the HI Fi Corner VS the Music Room is an honorary member of the cult I mentioned before, and again: no way around it, the rest you can tell to the audiophile police.

Guilty as charged! I don't post there as I can't stand Photobucket but do have a look and take notes as to what people are listening to, though I think there's better resources for that (Audiostream has been great discovering new music for example). 

charlesphoto posted:

Haim was being tongue in cheek. He forgot to mention lack of humor. That said all salient points and maybe the irony gets easily missed depending on your native language. 

yes, i didn’t understood first it was ironic.  He described a sort of audiophile dementia.  But there is some truth behind irony.....

French Rooster posted:

He described a sort of audiophile dementia.  But there is some truth behind irony.....

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Just considering having a dem of a TQ Silver Diamond interconnect or 555ps?

decisions decisions??

wenger2015 posted:

Just considering having a dem of a TQ Silver Diamond interconnect or 555ps?

decisions decisions??

The TQ silver Diamond won't hum.

charlesphoto posted:

Haim was being tongue in cheek. He forgot to mention lack of humor. That said all salient points and maybe the irony gets easily missed depending on your native language. 

I don't mind what colour your native  language is, and I don't think it excludes a sense of humour.

Besides which I think coppery is a much more interesting colour than irony!

TOBYJUG posted:

wenger2015 posted:

Just considering having a dem of a TQ Silver Diamond interconnect or 555ps?

decisions decisions??

The TQ silver Diamond won't hum.

And you can always put it in your pocket and take it with you in a hurry if need be. Probably useless for grappling though...

For that whole meter drop...

Just been reading a review on the Atlas Asimi Speaker cables.

Very impressive. 

Has anyone had opportunity to hear them in action?

Ouch, they’re an eye water price Wenger! 

Finkfan posted:

Ouch, they’re an eye water price Wenger! 

I would love to hear them

Maybe our dealer will have a set we can hear on our next visit? 

Finkfan posted:

Maybe our dealer will have a set we can hear on our next visit? 

We will have to put them on our list.....

I would think they will be ideal for the statement 

I’m still contemplating upgrading from my current Chord Epic Reference speaker cables. However I like what the do.

Any other Epic Reference users out there that have compared alternatives?

The epic reference has some good reviews, that said if you want a real step up it’s certainly worth auditioning either TQ ultra blacks or Super Lumina 

The 5M SL speaker cables I’ve been demoing are staying.  Always a good sign when one can listen longer (especially to digital music) and with a greater sense of engagement. 

Expensive wires may or may not be worth the money but they can’t be worth the debate

The Strat (Fender) posted:

Expensive wires may or may not be worth the money but they can’t be worth the debate

But debate costs nothing except time, and for a fair proportion of people time is easier to find than money...

The Strat (Fender) posted:

Expensive wires may or may not be worth the money but they can’t be worth the debate

I think this comment is worthy of further discussion….

Hook posted:

The 5M SL speaker cables I’ve been demoing are staying.  Always a good sign when one can listen longer (especially to digital music) and with a greater sense of engagement. 

Congrats on that Hook. If they work for you and you find them worth the cost, that's all that really matters.

Without expensive cables your system might just sound like a collection of expensive boxes.

We want unity and the revolution will be cablized.

Although not massively expensive in the grand scheme of audiophile cables I was very recently convinced to buy some Rega Duets (copper) over the original QED Silver Anniversary cables i had.

Having got them home I couldn't honestly say they sound any 'better' or particularly different - i'm aware of the claim that silver is more toppy. 

For comparison buying some Atacama Isolation Gel Pads to stick on my speaker stands gave me more of a sense of perceived improvement to the overall sound than the new cables did and cost £19.99. Funny how things work out.

JAG posted:

Although not massively expensive in the grand scheme of audiophile cables I was very recently convinced to buy some Rega Duets (copper) over the original QED Silver Anniversary cables i had.

Having got them home I couldn't honestly say they sound any 'better' or particularly different - i'm aware of the claim that silver is more toppy. 

For comparison buying some Atacama Isolation Gel Pads to stick on my speaker stands gave me more of a sense of perceived improvement to the overall sound than the new cables did and cost £19.99. Funny how things work out.

 

That’s one reason why a home dem is necessary, in fact most dealers are happy to let you try before you buy. 

Well I've just added a full loom Chord Music to my CD555, PS555DR, NAC552DR, NAP300DR, Sonus Faber Guarneri Tradition.  4 Music Power cables, phono interconnect, DIN-XLR and 3.5m speaker cables. Stunning results, utterly stunning. If you've listened and you're not impressed, feel free to comment. But if you've not and have a blind spot about not wanting to believe a cable(s) can sound as good as a black box upgrade don't bother because you're not qualified to comment.

Bryce, having the last two S/L cables installed three weeks ago to complete the full S/L loom I must agree something rather special they just seem to get the best out of the Black Boxes.