A Fistful of Brain Teasers

Posted by: Don Atkinson on 13 November 2017

A Fistful of Brain Teasers

For those who are either non-British, or under the age of 65………. The UK used to have a brilliant system of currency referred to as “Pounds, Shillings and Pence”. Simplified to £ ״ s ״ d. No! Don’t ask me why the “Pence” symbol is a “d”, just learn it and remember it !

A £ comprised 20 Shillings and a Shilling comprised 12 Pence. Thus a £ comprised 240 Pence. I reckon that both Microsoft and Apple would have difficulty with these numbers in their spreadsheets, more so if we included Guineas, Crowns, Half-Crowns and Florins. However, I digress..............

The purpose of the explanation is to assist with the first two or three teasers that follow. So just to ensure a reasonable comprehension has been grasped…. ….. if each of three children has £3 − 7s − 9d, then collectively they have £10 − 3s − 3d   Got the idea ? Good ! Just try 5 children, two each with £4 − 15s − 8d and three each with £3 − 3s −  4d. How much do they have between them ? (this isn’t the first brain teaser, just the basic introduction with some “homework”, the Teasers follow)

Posted on: 11 March 2018 by Don Atkinson
Innocent Bystander posted:

Dont know if I picked up in time:

Zero, rose, seal, alto, toga, game, mend

This time...........success.......you were faster than Eoin and sjb

Posted on: 11 March 2018 by Don Atkinson

Getting Home Early !

An office worker regularly arrives at his home station at exactly 5 pm (this is a fairy tale where the trains run EXACTLY to time !!!!)

His wife always meets him and drives him home (I already said it was a fairy tale!)

Today he took an earlier train and arrived at his home station at exactly 4 pm. It was a nice fine day today, so instead of telephoning, he set of to walk home, following the precise route his wife always takes and they met along the way. He got into the car and they drove home arriving 10 minutes earlier than usual.

Assuming the wife drove at a constant speed and that today she left home just in time to arrive at the station at 5 pm, can you figure out how long the office worker had been walking when his wife picked him up?

Posted on: 11 March 2018 by Eoink

Is it 55 minutes?

Posted on: 11 March 2018 by Innocent Bystander

My calc says Eoink is correct

Posted on: 12 March 2018 by Don Atkinson
Eoink posted:

Is it 55 minutes?

It is indeed.......

......hopefully IB's endorsement increased your confidence a bit ?

Would either of you like to outline your reasoning, for the benefit of anyone watching from the "wings" and who might still be wondering how to figure it out ? (If not, I'll do it later.)

Posted on: 12 March 2018 by Eoink

Time for wife to drive to station = t minutes
So she left at 5pm - t minutes
She was expecting to pick him up at 5pm and drive home, so returning home at 5pm + t minutes
Instead they returned home 10 minutes early at 5pm + t - 10 minutes
So the total journey time was 2t - 10 minutes instead of the usual 2t
She drove at constant speed, so she drove t - 5 minutes each way.
She left at 5pm - t minutes and met her husband t - 5 minutes later, thus 5pm - 5 minutes, or 4.55.
He left the station at 4pm, so had walked for 55 minutes.

That was a lot quicker to do than to try to explain

 

Posted on: 12 March 2018 by Innocent Bystander

I did it in a slightly inelegant way, calculating times. And coming to paste this after typing out I see Eoink has beaten me - and I agree it take a lot longer to write it out in an understandable way than to do!

X = miles station to home
Y = miles walked to pick up point
Z = miles pick up point to home
A = car mpm (miles per min)
B = walk mpm

Time for Normal drive home (min) = X/A
Time for walk (min) = Y/B
Time for drive to or return from pickup (min) = Z/A

Today compared to normal:
Y/B + Z/A = 60 + X/A - 10
Y/B + Z/A - X/A = 50
- - - - -
Wife leaves home to gets home
Normal = 2X/A
today = 2Z/A
Today time is 10 min less, so
2X/A -10 = 2Z/A
-5 = Z/A - X/A
- - - - -
Substituting
Y/B -5 = 50
Y/B = 55

Posted on: 12 March 2018 by Don Atkinson
Eoink posted:

Time for wife to drive to station = t minutes
So she left at 5pm - t minutes
She was expecting to pick him up at 5pm and drive home, so returning home at 5pm + t minutes
Instead they returned home 10 minutes early at 5pm + t - 10 minutes
So the total journey time was 2t - 10 minutes instead of the usual 2t
She drove at constant speed, so she drove t - 5 minutes each way.
She left at 5pm - t minutes and met her husband t - 5 minutes later, thus 5pm - 5 minutes, or 4.55.
He left the station at 4pm, so had walked for 55 minutes.

That was a lot quicker to do than to try to explain

 

Nicely done !

And yes, it's nearly always a lot quicker to do these sums than it is to explain them

Posted on: 12 March 2018 by Don Atkinson
Innocent Bystander posted:

I did it in a slightly inelegant way, calculating times. And coming to paste this after typing out I see Eoink has beaten me - and I agree it take a lot longer to write it out in an understandable way than to do!

X = miles station to home
Y = miles walked to pick up point
Z = miles pick up point to home
A = car mpm (miles per min)
B = walk mpm

Time for Normal drive home (min) = X/A
Time for walk (min) = Y/B
Time for drive to or return from pickup (min) = Z/A

Today compared to normal:
Y/B + Z/A = 60 + X/A - 10
Y/B + Z/A - X/A = 50
- - - - -
Wife leaves home to gets home
Normal = 2X/A
today = 2Z/A
Today time is 10 min less, so
2X/A -10 = 2Z/A
-5 = Z/A - X/A
- - - - -
Substituting
Y/B -5 = 50
Y/B = 55

Again, nicely done.

Just shows......there is nearly always more than one way to solve a problem.

Hopefully anybody browsing and following both yourself and Eoin, will now be able to say "ah! now I understand !"

Posted on: 13 March 2018 by Don Atkinson

 The Boring Sphere

(This one would do Elon Musk and his "The Boring Company" proud - well, possibly...........)

A six-inch long hole is drilled right through a sphere, along a diameter. What is the volume of solid material left in the resultant bead?

Posted on: 13 March 2018 by Beachcomber

What is the diameter of the hole?

Posted on: 13 March 2018 by Don Atkinson
Beachcomber posted:

What is the diameter of the hole?

Drilling a hole through a sphere creates a bead.

The length of the hole through the resultant bead is 6".

 

Posted on: 13 March 2018 by Don Atkinson

Boring Sphere Problem JPEG

Picture might help ?

Posted on: 13 March 2018 by Innocent Bystander

A hunch, no time to look up any formulae: 113.1 in³

Posted on: 13 March 2018 by Innocent Bystander

Reasoning: from the question, the volume of the bead solid is same regardless of diameter of original sphere - if  large diameter, the hole will be almost as large diameter to get the 6in hole height, making the bead very large but with thin wall. If small, the bead will be smaller, but thicker. If hole infinitesimally small, the sphere could only be 6” diameter, hence volume of the solid is volume of the 6in sphere, 4/3 πr³

Posted on: 13 March 2018 by Beachcomber
Don Atkinson posted:
Beachcomber posted:

What is the diameter of the hole?

Drilling a hole through a sphere creates a bead.

The length of the hole through the resultant bead is 6".

 

Yes. I know the length of the hole is about 6" (slightly less at the edges of the hole).  But I don't see any information which tells me what diameter the hole is.  If it is 6" then nothing is left of the bead.  If it is .00001 inches then as near as dammit the bead is pretty much the same as it was.

I must be missing something - either the diameter of the drill bit used to drill the hole or something else...

Posted on: 13 March 2018 by Innocent Bystander
Beachcomber posted:
Don Atkinson posted:
Beachcomber posted:

What is the diameter of the hole?

Drilling a hole through a sphere creates a bead.

The length of the hole through the resultant bead is 6".

 

Yes. I know the length of the hole is about 6" (slightly less at the edges of the hole).  But I don't see any information which tells me what diameter the hole is.  If it is 6" then nothing is left of the bead.  If it is .00001 inches then as near as dammit the bead is pretty much the same as it was.

I must be missing something - either the diameter of the drill bit used to drill the hole or something else...

From Don’s drawing it is the edges of the hole that are 6” long, not the centre. My assumption was that the hole can be any diameter, but with the fixed height the volume of the bead surrounding would be the same, as I tried to say in explaining my splution. The assumption was purely through Don’s pointedly giving only the one dimension.

Posted on: 13 March 2018 by Beachcomber

Ah, - I see - so if the length of the hole is 6 inches long at the edges of the hole then... but wait, he said 6 inches along the diameter, so that was why I assumed that the sphere is 6 inches in diameter.  If we are saying that it is 6 inches long at the edges of the hole, then things get awfully complicated.  We are now talking about a chord that is 6 inches long.  But any size of sphere can have parallel chords that are 6 inches long.  Are you saying that the segment created by a chord that is 6 inches long is the same for all spheres (greater than 6 inches in diameter)?  

Posted on: 13 March 2018 by Eoink

I think we have three volumes. We have a cylinder through the sphere of radius r, and volume 6 PI r^2. We have two segments of the spehere, one at each end of the cylinder which are missing, radius of r and height h. We have a sphere of diameter 6 + 2*h, so volume 4/3 PI (3+h)^2. I can't immediately see how to work out h from r and 6, if I could I could solve the three volumes and I strongly suspect as IB does that given the phrasing of the question they'll be independent of r as the terms will cancel.

Posted on: 13 March 2018 by Innocent Bystander

If segment is the right term for a bead? Like a circle segment, with chord length 6”, rotated around the sphere circumference...

here’s an image (it probably won’t show , so use the link)

https://imgur.com/a/OenBB

 It is my assumption that all the beads have the same volume of solid material.

Posted on: 13 March 2018 by Eoink

Ah, I'm looking at as a sphere, hollowed out by a cylinder and with the cap at each end of the cylinder removed. So we have the volume of the sphere, from which we subtract the volume of the cylinder and the volume of the 2 caps. I'm pretty sure that if I solve for these, the terms with the radius of the cylinder will cancel out, and we'll end up with the volume of a 6 inch sphere, but my near-40 year old A-Level maths is not coming back to me.

Posted on: 13 March 2018 by Don Atkinson

All three of you, IB, Beachcomber and Eoin are well on the way to success.

However, you are all basing your projected outcome on either TRUST or assumptions.

I’m somewhat flattered that you trust that I have provided sufficient information that you can assume that the radius of the sphere is irrelevant. 

Well, you can! It doesn’t matter whether the sphere is 6” (the smallest), 12” (say) or 8,000 miles (the world). The volume of the residual “bead” or “ring” is the same. Almost unbelievable !

However, as I say, this is based on trust. Eoin has a way forward to prove that R is irrelevant. But there are other ways.

Posted on: 14 March 2018 by Don Atkinson

fao IB, Beachcomber and Eion..................(or others)

..............Just like Teresa May, I'll give you until midnight tonight to explain your boring sphere solutions, after which there will be consequences............

Posted on: 14 March 2018 by Innocent Bystander

And as Putin might say, you can go play with your hifi until you provide proof that there is a solution...

 

(In other words I don’t have time at the moment to pursue this!)

Posted on: 14 March 2018 by Don Atkinson
Eoink posted:

Ah, I'm looking at as a sphere, hollowed out by a cylinder and with the cap at each end of the cylinder removed. So we have the volume of the sphere, from which we subtract the volume of the cylinder and the volume of the 2 caps. I'm pretty sure that if I solve for these, the terms with the radius of the cylinder will cancel out, and we'll end up with the volume of a 6 inch sphere, but my near-40 year old A-Level maths is not coming back to me.

Hi Eoin,

Twenty years ago, I would have reached for my school maths homework book, but these days it’s much easier, and just as valid, to “google” ........

volume of a sphere

volume of a cylinder

volume of a spherical dome

my guess is that it’s only the dome that the old grey matter needs to refresh.

But it’s surprising how nicely the various terms cancel out leaving a volume devoid of R.

I’ll post my solutions tomorrow. One as outlined above, the other based on integration. You are on the right track.