A new speaker system Naim from the past to the future.

Posted by: Sergey72vw on 20 November 2017

Good afternoon friends. Comes in 2018, and I have major changes in the system.

It's a miracle, but I managed to find brand new, sealed Naim SBL. Still can't believe they've survived for nearly 15 years in the package.

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A great gift for my birthday and implementation of a long-standing dream.

In the evening I will open the box, and while exciting minutes of waiting.

Here are my old threads, will help you remember my way:

https://forums.naimaudio.com/to...282-250-hicap?page=1

https://forums.naimaudio.com/to...12#15504822846286112

To be continued...

 

Posted on: 20 November 2017 by Bob the Builder

Well done great find and of interest as I may have talked my better half into giving the SBL's a go!

Posted on: 20 November 2017 by joerand

Sergey,

Fantastic find -  just short of the Arc of the Covenant . I hope the unboxing goes well with no sticky packing material and all sounds great for you. Give them an easy break-in period. Enjoy and keep us updated.

Posted on: 20 November 2017 by Stevee_S

Congratulations, fantastic, where on earth did you manage to find them? 

Posted on: 20 November 2017 by Gazza

Amazing find. Might be worth a call to a Naim just in case they have any wise words on their speakers being unused for so long. Are the crossovers still at their best? Either way you are a lucky guy.

Posted on: 21 November 2017 by Sergey72vw
Stevee_S posted:

Congratulations, fantastic, where on earth did you manage to find them? 

Yes, it really is a miracle!

The former owner bought them in 2003-2004, some of the last. Soon went abroad, where long worked. But they remained sealed at his home in St. Petersburg, Russia.

I accidentally found out about its history from a friend, contacted him and he told me they were sold. Now I'm happy, as always dreamed of Naim SBL, but even could not imagine that I would become the owner of a new!

The system is composed Nac52, Supercap, 2xNap135 got a worthy setting.

Posted on: 21 November 2017 by Sergey72vw
Gazza posted:

Amazing find. Might be worth a call to a Naim just in case they have any wise words on their speakers being unused for so long. Are the crossovers still at their best? Either way you are a lucky guy.

I have never opened them. Just brought home.

In the evening

Posted on: 21 November 2017 by Richard Dane

Wow, what a great find Sergey!

Only possible issue might be the sealant - I don't know how long it lasts before it goes off.  But it shouldn't be too difficult to substitute.

Posted on: 21 November 2017 by Sergey72vw

Thank You Richard Dane!

I was waiting for you))) Tell me how to properly unpack and maybe somewhere there are instructions on installing?

Pudu appreciated, thanks.

Posted on: 21 November 2017 by Richard Dane

One of our (erstwhile?) members here used to have a useful if rather irreverent site detailing how to set up a pair of SBLs. I'm not sure whether it's still out there in one form or another, but plenty has been written on here on the subject so probably worth doing some searches.

It's mostly very straightforward (and detailed in the manual), the only tricky bit is the gasket and seal.  One trick is to put a very thin smear of washing up liquid on the cabinet surfaces where the gasket is going to be placed.  This ensures that should you need to take the SBLs apart in future - i.e. you move them - then it's easy to do.

Make sure you have a good spanner and a spirit level - a long one, not one of those fairly useless round bubble levels. 

Posted on: 21 November 2017 by hungryhalibut

Get the bottom box absolutely level and as close to the wall as possible. The gasket attaches with its own sticky tape to the bottom box. You should not use any washing up liquid at this stage. Once the gasket is in place, you smear a very thin layer of the liquid on top of the gasket. That’s the only place you need it. (I hate to say this, but Richard’s suggestion of putting the washing liquid on the bottom box before the gasket is not correct, or if it is it certainly wasn’t what I was told by Naim when they showed me how to assemble SBLs in my house).

You then apply a continuous bead of silicone to the gasket, and then place the box with the bass speaker on top. Give it a gentle press down, so that the spikes make indentations in the pads, but not so much that they pierce them. If you apply too much silicone it will spread over the edge of the gasket and seal the two boxes together. That is bad. Just enough silicone is the answer.

Then add the top boxes with the tweeters, using the piece of cardboard to get the right distance. You can then play music, there is no need to wait. Check that you have the seal correct by pushing in the bass unit with your fingers. It should come out slowly. If it pops out immediately the seal is no good and you must start again. It’s actually pretty easy if you take your time. 

Posted on: 21 November 2017 by Christopher_M

Great find!

IMO it is vital to spend time on levelling the lower boxes and tightening the nuts on them so that the boxes do not rock. That way, only the music rocks 

Posted on: 21 November 2017 by Richard Dane

HH, you're right, I'm wrong, it's been too long since I set up a pair of SBLs...

Posted on: 21 November 2017 by Clive B

To add my two penneth. I cannot remember precisely, but don’t you also smear a very fine film of washing up liquid on the middle box so that effectively there is washing up liquid on both sides of the sealant?

If the sealant has gone off, it is really easy to source from any DIY store.

Very important though IMHO is not to press hard at all on the middle box as the spikes are sharp and will easily pierce the aluminium pads. 

Once set up though they are superb loudspeakers and with your 52 and 135s they will really perform. 

Posted on: 21 November 2017 by Sergey72vw

Thank you friends!

Opened, saw it. All intact, with the smell of Salisbury.

In boxes with acoustics was missing the crossovers, they are separate in the package was? And if the seller lost them, can I buy new now and at what price?

And another question. Crossovers must be Packed in sealed boxes?

Posted on: 21 November 2017 by Christopher_M

Ah. I would check that the serial numbers on the SBLs match the serial numbers on the cardboard boxes.

I would email Naim with the serial numbers and find out if they were sold as an active pair without crossovers. This seems plausible. And if they were, I would ask for their help in finding crossovers.

Posted on: 22 November 2017 by joerand

The plot thickens. Maybe a "going active with SBLs" thread on the horizon?

Posted on: 22 November 2017 by Sergey72vw

Purpose to use SBL on my active no. Hopefully Richard Dane will help with the purchase of a new passive crossover for my SBL.

Posted on: 22 November 2017 by Richard Dane

You could buy with or without. I do t think Naim have any anymore. They crop up secondhand though. Perhaps try Steve Hopkins at Naim just to check.

Posted on: 22 November 2017 by Lewis

Wow superb!

One of my favourite speakers, I have mine and despite other speakers coming and going, the SBL's have remained.

Enjoy

Posted on: 22 November 2017 by Sergey72vw
Richard Dane posted:

You could buy with or without. I do t think Naim have any anymore. They crop up secondhand though. Perhaps try Steve Hopkins at Naim just to check.

How to contact Steve Hopkins?

Posted on: 22 November 2017 by Gazza

Support@naimaudio.com or call 44-1722 426 600

Posted on: 23 November 2017 by Sergey72vw

To everyone who responded and tried to help thank you very much!

The new crossover was found.

Posted on: 23 November 2017 by blythe

Another couple of 135's and a SNAXO 2-4 will really make them sing 

Posted on: 23 November 2017 by ngarritson

I thought I had the “find” of the year when I got a fully functioning 72 in good cosmetic condition with original box and MC cards for $70, but this takes the cake.  

Anyone else have a story to share about a great second hand purchase?

Posted on: 23 November 2017 by Gazza

Would love to see the pictures when you have them up and running.