A 300 mile trip to the Dealer

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I suspect Core/NDAC would be a great option, although to put it at 552/500 level, you might want to power it with a 555. Also, you will want an internet connection for it when you rip CDs, to add metadata, which comes from an online source. 

Talking of metadata, do you have a large classical or jazz collection? If so, I’d say you might find browsing it on the Core a frustrating experience. Next time you make that 300 mile trip, try browsing a Core library on an iPad. 

If I understand correctly, the dealer took analog as a source, ripped to digital (on Core), and played from that, claiming it was superior and free from surface noise.

Now, whilst I agree that good digital can easily beat even the best vinyl for fidelity to the original recording, it can only be as good as the signal that is digitised. From a master recording that can avoid many of the limitations inherent in vinyl, but assuming the dealer's original source was vinyl, then he must have played that on something, and on the face of it the digital copy can be no better than the record/TT combination. Of course, DSP can be used to clean up ripped vinyl, e.g removing clicks and pops, which can improve the overall sound. The transfer will not of itself improve on the sound from the vinyl replay, though it will preserve any artefacts from the vinyl source (other than anything cleaned up with DSP, and it will be better in that it will not degrade with dust or wear. 

The same would hold true if the dealer's analog source is tape, though potentially that could be better than vinyl, particilarly in being devoid of the surface noise to which vinyl can be prone.

I ripped my entire LP collection, cleaned up clicks and pops, to produce good copies many of which I still have (the most deteriorated I have since largely replaced with digital downloads, while for some others I subsequently found better digital versions).

However, as ChrisSU indicated with ripped analog recordings the only embedded metadata is what you or the person ripping adds, which is a fundamental consideration for anyone ripping to take care of from the start.

This looks like it was written by Mr. COREbachov himself..  Was it a 300 miles trip to our little Chicago? If yes, did you get a chance to compare the PROAC sound to the Dynaudio's?

Innocent Bystander posted:

If I understand correctly, the dealer took analog as a source, ripped to digital (on Core), and played from that, claiming it was superior and free from surface noise.

{Not sure it was on the core}

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Now, whilst I agree that good digital can easily beat even the best vinyl for fidelity to the original recording, it can only be as good as the signal that is digitised. From a master recording that can avoid many of the limitations inherent in vinyl, but assuming the dealer's original source was vinyl,

{then he must have played that on something, and on the face of it the digital copy can be no better than the record/TT combination.}

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Of course, DSP can be used to clean up ripped vinyl, e.g removing clicks and pops, which can improve the overall sound. The transfer will not of itself improve on the sound from the vinyl replay, though it will preserve any artefacts from the vinyl source (other than anything cleaned up with DSP, and it will be better in that it will not degrade with dust or wear. 

The same would hold true if the dealer's analog source is tape, though potentially that could be better than vinyl, particilarly in being devoid of the surface noise to which vinyl can be prone.

I ripped my entire LP collection, cleaned up clicks and pops, to produce good copies many of which I still have (the most deteriorated I have since largely replaced with digital downloads, while for some others I subsequently found better digital versions).

However, as ChrisSU indicated with ripped analog recordings the only embedded metadata is what you or the person ripping adds, which is a fundamental consideration for anyone ripping to take care of from the start.

You got it, The Dealer ( Mr. X ) ripped and recorded it on something!

That's the part that puzzles me, so those that partake in this process, for the sake of removing the Snap Crackle, and Pop, and preserving their original collection.

If I understand you correctly, there can be no improvement, as it relates to SQ minus the surface noise?

Now this is a spill over thread from:

<NDS suppressed by my CDS2>

Core ~ $2.6K

NDS ~ $13K

Pre - loved Ndac ~ $2K

I think you & Chris see where I'm headed!

Assuming the same 500 series System:

Which Naim component, would set the tone, without forking out $13K!

Thanks for the insight.

Chris & Innocent 

Allante93!

PS. @ Chriss

I can't afford 500 series, just investigate to see, if the Core/Ndac is the proper move, if one is contemplating on making the move to Streaming!

Being a novice, this is my weak area!

The metadata??????

Once Again Thanks!

Allante93 posted:

 

 

 

You got it, The Dealer ( Mr. X ) ripped and recorded it on something!

That's the part that puzzles me, so those that partake in this process, for the sake of removing the Snap Crackle, and Pop, and preserving their original collection.

If I understand you correctly, there can be no improvement, as it relates to SQ minus the surface noise? Ripping the record simply takes what the vinyl replay gives, and preserves it, i.e. not improving it, UNLESS there is some additional processing like removing clicks - but that is not removing the artefacts of the recording process (like surface contact noise or limited dynamic range or any effect of the varying tangential groove speed as the stylus traverses the disc, however audible they may or may not be) 

Now this is a spill over thread from:

<NDS suppressed by my CDS2>

Core ~ $2.6K

NDS ~ $13K

Pre - loved Ndac ~ $2K

I think you & Chris see where I'm headed!

Assuming the same 500 series System:

Which Naim component, would set the tone, without forking out $13K!

Thanks for the insight.

Chris & Innocent 

Allante93!

PS. @ Chriss

I can't afford 500 series, just investigate to see, if the Core/Ndac is the proper move, if one is contemplating on making the move to Streaming!

Being a novice, this is my weak area!

The metadata?????? Yes, most digital replay systems use metadata for library functions, including finding the files, and it therefore needs adding either manually or, if the recording is recognised via an online service, it might be possible to download metadata semi-automatically - but important to check the key data is there (e.g. possibly genre, artist or composer, album name, track names, and your files use a consistent approach: e.g first name or surname first. And it is far easier to do as you rip or shortly after, than when you have ammassed a large number 

Once Again Thanks!