Middling zoomy travel camera

Posted by: Salmon Dave on 05 January 2018

I have a nice Canon S95 but which produces pretty good images and has all the functionality I need (bar one thing), but I need a bit more zoom than 24-105 or whatever it is.

That sort of wide-angle is important but I would like a viewfinder with dioptre as I frequently wear contacts when away and thus can't focus in on the screen (not to mention sunlight issues). 

The Lumix TZ90 seems to tick the boxes, but of course any informed/balanced opinion much welcome. The TZ100 is top of the budget range for this, but has a more fiddly button set than the 90 and no flip-up screen.

 

 

 

 

 

Posted on: 05 January 2018 by Tony Lockhart

I wear multi focal contacts, end of problem. Have you tried them?

Posted on: 05 January 2018 by Don Atkinson

I have a Leica D-Lux 4, you can pick them up second hand for under £200.

Great little camera. Native optical Zoom is only 2.5 or 3.0 but.....the lens is good enough to allow cropping of theJPEG file by a further factor of 3 or so, thus giving an equivalent Zoom factor of about 9 or 10.

My Nikon D7200 came with a good quality 16 - 80 Zoom lens, again a fairly modest factor of 5. But likewise, because of the quality of the lens, I can crop by a factor of about 5, giving an effective Zoom of about 25. Yes, I know it's not the sort of camera you are considering, it's just the principle that a good lens allows quite a bit of cropping without loss of detail.

Might be worth a thought, or two ?

Posted on: 05 January 2018 by dayjay

It doesn't zoom so may not be any good for you but I recently picked up a Fuji X100T specifically for taking on holiday as I was tired of carrying round a full DSLR.  Its a brilliant little camera with a proper sensor and great wideish angle lens and is a little like the old rangefinders I used to use.

Posted on: 05 January 2018 by JamieWednesday

If it needs to stay pocket sized, then the IQ will suffer somewhat on longer zoom. I still have an S95 and it’s a really useful camera. 

What would you use the longer zoom for and how often?

Posted on: 07 January 2018 by notnaim man
Don Atkinson posted:

I have a Leica D-Lux 4, you can pick them up second hand for under £200.

Great little camera. Native optical Zoom is only 2.5 or 3.0 but.....the lens is good enough to allow cropping of theJPEG file by a further factor of 3 or so, thus giving an equivalent Zoom factor of about 9 or 10.

My Nikon D7200 came with a good quality 16 - 80 Zoom lens, again a fairly modest factor of 5. But likewise, because of the quality of the lens, I can crop by a factor of about 5, giving an effective Zoom of about 25. Yes, I know it's not the sort of camera you are considering, it's just the principle that a good lens allows quite a bit of cropping without loss of detail.

Might be worth a thought, or two ?

I totally support Don, it's taken a while to comment because I have been searching for a particular picture and this is an experiment. I bought my daughter a Canon G15 and this picture is from the first trip out.

When she sent me the picture I noticed in the centre of the image a black dot, about the third bloom up. Zooming in it was possible to see that the black dot was an ant. This is a 12 megapixel camera. I don't know if you will be able to see it from the picture loaded.

The current equivalent is I think the G9X.

Posted on: 07 January 2018 by northpole

I have a Leica D-Lux 109 which is slightly larger than the D-Lux 4 but I found the image quality significantly improved, especially when using the RAW format.  You can pick them up pre-owned for reasonable ££.  They aren't M10's but much more portable, less attention grabbing and impressive results.

Peter

Posted on: 07 January 2018 by GraemeH
northpole posted:

I have a Leica D-Lux 109 which is slightly larger than the D-Lux 4 but I found the image quality significantly improved, especially when using the RAW format.  You can pick them up pre-owned for reasonable ££.  They aren't M10's but much more portable, less attention grabbing and impressive results.

Peter

This replaced my M8 & 40 ‘cron. I’m very pleased with it. To have f1.7 capability is astonishing at the price.

G

Posted on: 07 January 2018 by Eloise
northpole posted:

I have a Leica D-Lux 109 which is slightly larger than the D-Lux 4 but I found the image quality significantly improved, especially when using the RAW format.  You can pick them up pre-owned for reasonable ££.  

Worth also looking at the Panasonic LX100 which is essentially the same camera (hardware; the Leica has tweaked firmware it’s said) at about half the cost.

Posted on: 07 January 2018 by JamieWednesday

I also have the d-lux but it is much larger than an S95 and has a ‘normal’ zoom range. Good camera but not fitting the brief?

Posted on: 07 January 2018 by Don Atkinson
Eloise posted:
northpole posted:

I have a Leica D-Lux 109 which is slightly larger than the D-Lux 4 but I found the image quality significantly improved, especially when using the RAW format.  You can pick them up pre-owned for reasonable ££.  

Worth also looking at the Panasonic LX100 which is essentially the same camera (hardware; the Leica has tweaked firmware it’s said) at about half the cost.

That little Red Dot makes ALL the difference  and not just to the price !! 

Posted on: 07 January 2018 by Don Atkinson
JamieWednesday posted:

I also have the d-lux but it is much larger than an S95 and has a ‘normal’ zoom range. Good camera but not fitting the brief?

That’s true. I wasn’t promoting the d-lux, merely better quality lenses  which might (but might not) allow cropping to achieve a similar result to a wider range of zoom.

I’m no photographer so am happy to be corrected.

Posted on: 07 January 2018 by JamieWednesday

Oh, no need to be corrected, it’s a really nice camera. As per previous post I wonder whether SD really needs long zoom? And/Or the uber pocketability of the S95...

Posted on: 08 January 2018 by Dozey

I have a lumix and they are great cameras.