SN2 & HC DR where next - 282 OR SC DR

Posted by: Matthew Johns on 16 January 2018

hi all been reading up on this but as ever interested in peoples opinions on this 

as ever local dealer (curse the man) tempting me with damn good offer on either a 282 or SC DR 

so thoughts are what would a better performance boost either adding a SC DR to the SN2 (i really liked what my hiCAP DR brought when i added that)

OR adding a 282 to the SN2 and using it as a power amp (till back end of year when would bring in a 250DR to replace the SN2)

OR slight variation to above, could look at long game and move to SC DR then wait go straight to a 252 next year followed by the 250 DR 

 

interested in any experiences people have making the transition 

 

or suppose could not do any of the above and go get a chord DAC as most people seem to be doing................        

 

advice as ever appreciated 

 

thanks mat 

Posted on: 16 January 2018 by Popeye

What’s your source?

Posted on: 16 January 2018 by Matthew Johns

Source is NDAC > XPS DR > NDX with Sarum SA/T chord cables fed via melco Nas 

Posted on: 16 January 2018 by Foot tapper

Of the 2 options, a 282.

Or, trade in the NDX, NDAC and SN2 for 272/your XPS/250DR? 

Just a thought.

Best regards, FT

Posted on: 16 January 2018 by Karl

I would go for the 282 or sell NDX and NDAC and get NDS.

Karl

Posted on: 16 January 2018 by GraemeH
Foot tapper posted:

Of the 2 options, a 282.

Or, trade in the NDX, NDAC and SN2 for 272/your XPS/250DR? 

Just a thought.

Best regards, FT

I did this.

G

Posted on: 16 January 2018 by Foot tapper

Graeme,

You are my secret source of inspiration! 

By the way, that's a lovely house you have photographed in your profile.

Best regards, FT

Posted on: 16 January 2018 by Matthew Johns
GraemeH posted:
Foot tapper posted:

Of the 2 options, a 282.

Or, trade in the NDX, NDAC and SN2 for 272/your XPS/250DR? 

Just a thought.

Best regards, FT

I did this.

G

Hmm tempting to try but I think mind set on the separates route for flexibility unless they unleash an updated streamer/preamp that could beat an nds........  At which point my wallet would cry and wife would kill me  

Posted on: 16 January 2018 by GraemeH
Foot tapper posted:

Graeme,

You are my secret source of inspiration! 

By the way, that's a lovely house you have photographed in your profile.

Best regards, FT

Thanks indeed FT...I’m still awaiting my XPSDR mind. It was due last week but no sign from my dealer yet.

G

Posted on: 16 January 2018 by wenger2015

Hi Mat,

Add the 282 with the view of adding a 250dr, it’s an exceptionally good combination and will work extremely well with your source and you will have a well balanced system.

Posted on: 16 January 2018 by ryder.

If you happen to go with the NAC 282, its potential can only be unleashed when the dual outputs are connected either with a Supercap or dual Hicaps. A single Hicap will work well and there are reports that dual Hicaps don't sound as good as one on the NAC 282 but my experience suggests otherwise.

Good luck. 

Posted on: 16 January 2018 by Timo

I guess the best upgrade path depends on the "endgame" you have in mind. To minimise the overall costs, try to keep the number of "steps" as low as possible...

Posted on: 16 January 2018 by Fueller

282/ SN should sound well ahead of SC2 on a Supernait, unless 252 is your endgame then the latter is a more cost effective step. The Supernait power amp sounds just fine until you get a 250, I've used it in this way.

Posted on: 16 January 2018 by ChrisSU

I would make your dealer earn his money, by first letting you do lots of listening to the options you are considering. If you think your endgame might be a 252, it makes sense to get the Supercap now, even though it might seem like overkill on a Supernait, then leapfrog directly to a 252. BUT that seems to be a bit of a Marmite preamp, and if you don't like it, maybe get the 282 first.

Posted on: 16 January 2018 by William

Get your dealer to put on the coffee and go compare the 282 with 252 into 250 DR and your speakers or similar. That should give you enough to go on. Once you have decided which pre-amp you prefer you could also compare that into a 300 DR.

If the SC DR is such a good offer, I would take that first and play the long game.

Posted on: 17 January 2018 by analogmusic

I'd get a 282 - there's simply no way a Supernait 2 pre can outperform the 282 preamp. Supercap or not.

I did the test, it was a very decisive result in favour of 282.

The 282 is such a fine preamp, the only place for me after 282 is a 552.

Posted on: 17 January 2018 by Joppe

Audition to find your end game is also my advice, but also audition 282 w. SC. In the end both the 252 and 282 option might inclued a SC... and if at a good deal...

Posted on: 17 January 2018 by Johnny5

282 ,supercap ,250 dr if you can afford it than 252 I have not heard the 252 but some people think the 282 is better.....with supercap DR

Posted on: 17 January 2018 by Pcd
William posted:

Get your dealer to put on the coffee and go compare the 282 with 252 into 250 DR and your speakers or similar. That should give you enough to go on. Once you have decided which pre-amp you prefer you could also compare that into a 300 DR.

If the SC DR is such a good offer, I would take that first and play the long game.

Very good advice both are  rather excellent pre amps it's a matter of personal choice.I used a 250dr in my set up for over a year changing to a 300dr last year this was a massive step up over the 250dr.

 

 

Posted on: 18 January 2018 by Matthew Johns

thanks for the advice guys decided on the preloved 282 can't wait till it arrives....................... 

Posted on: 18 January 2018 by ChrisSU
Matthew Johns posted:

thanks for the advice guys decided on the preloved 282 can't wait till it arrives....................... 

Goo decision - well I would say that, wouldn't I?! Give it plenty of space and it will be happy - maybe even top shelf of your rack.

Posted on: 18 January 2018 by Matthew Johns

quick question in terms of rack order should i have the NDAC on my top shelf OR the 282 ???

currently have it NDAC>NDX>HiCAP>SN2>XPSDR>Melco 

 

thanks

Posted on: 18 January 2018 by engjoo

252/SC. End of story for a forseeable future.

Posted on: 18 January 2018 by Matthew Johns
engjoo posted:

252/SC. End of story for a forseeable future.

love to get there at some point maybe, but cannot afford this level of spend/jump

Posted on: 19 January 2018 by ChrisSU
Matthew Johns posted:

quick question in terms of rack order should i have the NDAC on my top shelf OR the 282 ???

currently have it NDAC>NDX>HiCAP>SN2>XPSDR>Melco 

I found 282 on top sounded best, with NDX below, but that’s without an NDAC.