Ripping CDs using blu ray

Posted by: Japtimscarlet on 28 January 2018

I've ripped most of my CDs to flac on my NAS but I'm wondering if I have the best quality / sounding files?

Putting aside the wav / flac debate... would I be better ripping them using a blu ray player rather than the ( fairly cheap ) dvd usb drive I have been using

The reason I ask is ...when taking the file on a usb stick and plugging it into my 272 ..it sounds NO better at all than tidal hi-fi ...in fact I often prefer tidal over the rip

I am ripping at best quality and minimal compression I should mention.

Thoughts please ??

Posted on: 28 January 2018 by Adam Zielinski

What software are you using for ripping? Local, well-made rips, should sound better than Tidal.

Posted on: 28 January 2018 by Eloise

Assuming you had no errors when ripping, then you can’t improve on it.  

What software did you use for ripping?

If you didn’t use something which uses AccurateRIP (which compares a checksum of your rip to a database of other rips of the same CD); you could try checking out dbPowerAmp “Perfect Tunes” which will compare your rips to the AccurateRIP checksum - that can give you confidence that your ripped CDs were ripped well.

When comparing your rips to Tidal, are you sure you are comparing them to the same version of the CD?

Posted on: 28 January 2018 by Japtimscarlet

Hi 

I'm using exact audio copy EAC software...that does check again a database

Most copies I make show a high percentage match

Yes...same version on tidal ...

That's what has got me thinking..

Posted on: 28 January 2018 by Alley Cat

I don't think ripping on a BluRay drive specifically will help - your rips are either accurate or not.   I'd personally prefer to rip CDs on a dedicated CD reader/writer which would have been engineered specifically for CDs (however for CD-ROMs/and re-writables more than for Red Book CDs), unlike modern drives that need to be a jack of all-trades, but ultimately I don't think it should make a difference if your rips are deemed accurate.

I'm currently ripping on a Samsung USB BluRay drive - only 1 CD has caused me issues currently and that's badly scratched - odd for me as most of my CDs are barely played as I used to rip for computer audio usage.

Your point about Tidal is interesting but I don't think you can necessarily assume a CD rip is identical to a Tidal streaming file - do we know for certain that Tidal files (or other companies such as Qobuz) are not manipulated with volume normalisation or other processes before they're published?

Posted on: 29 January 2018 by Pev

Just shows that with a decent network Tidal can sound as good as a rip. It does on my system and I'm happy.

Posted on: 29 January 2018 by Japtimscarlet

That is a fair point about volume matching / tweeting of tidal files...

All I can say is I'm hard pushed to think of a sound track that I have ripped that doesn't sound more enjoyable on tidal

I have tried ripping in wav but it was not an improvement on flac , and lost most of the meta data of course...

Ok .. guess I will just continue to enjoy tidal.

Ohh just thought.. I have a CD 5si player ...I think CDs ripped compared to played sound quite similar ( yes I know it's naims bottom rung player) so it appears that tidal are just doing a good job ??

Posted on: 29 January 2018 by Alley Cat
Japtimscarlet posted:

 

Ohh just thought.. I have a CD 5si player ...I think CDs ripped compared to played sound quite similar ( yes I know it's naims bottom rung player) so it appears that tidal are just doing a good job ??

That's encouraging if it sounds good - ultimately it's hard to see we can hold back the streaming tide (!) indefinitely as physical disc sales and download sales drop because most users just want convenience and the huge catalogue streaming gives them.

Posted on: 29 January 2018 by blythe
Alley Cat posted:

I'm currently ripping on a Samsung USB BluRay drive - only 1 CD has caused me issues currently and that's badly scratched - odd for me as most of my CDs are barely played as I used to rip for computer audio usage.

Apologies for highjacking the thread - you mention a badly scratched CD which is causing troubles.
Did you know you can polish most CD's using Brasso and a clean, soft cloth?
I've helped a few friends where CD's refuse to play - one such friend is an artist and had got paint on some CD's, as well as scratches.
Obviously, a very badly scratched CD might be beyond redemption.