LP12 news

I predict all superseded Urika’s and Lingo’s, will, overnight, mysteriously sound broken.

:-)

fatcat posted:

I predict all superseded Urika’s and Lingo’s, will, overnight, mysteriously sound broken.

And maybe get a little more affordable on the used market. 

WTF!!?? 

The new Urika II phono stage DIGITIZES the signal from the cartridge. WOW!

Yes, digital only spdif and Exact.... I‘m confused about new Lingo. Is it better than the old one and what about Radikal? Same class or better?

Their company motto is now:   ''The needle is in the ear'' 

My armchair is firmly analogue as is my LP12 - as are my ears

cat345 posted:

Their company motto is now:   ''The needle is in the ear'' 

Sounds painful and expensive if the cantilever got sheared off (once did that with an album I'd rather not mention after a festive night out many moons ago - couldn't figure out the absence of sound from the LP12 until the next morning.....)

Alba1320 posted:

As if digitising a perfectly good analogue signal wasn't 'exciting' enough, according to Linn's site "You can even optimise Urika II for your most comfortable armchair..."

I'm hoping that's a typo?

They will soon make announcements a range of comfortably furnitures neccesary to own for linnies

I’ve never understood the logic of digitising a signal from a high quality TT.             

I suppose the jury's out on this one as no one here has heard it.But it does go against the grain with Linns Analog heritage with the LP12.

The Strat (Fender) posted:

I’ve never understood the logic of digitising a signal from a high quality TT.             

I am glad it is not just me.....

Simon-in-Suffolk posted:

The Strat (Fender) posted:

I’ve never understood the logic of digitising a signal from a high quality TT.             

I am glad it is not just me.....

Surely it has to be converted back to analogue for listening ?

Rattlesnaic posted:

Simon-in-Suffolk posted:

The Strat (Fender) posted:

I’ve never understood the logic of digitising a signal from a high quality TT.             

I am glad it is not just me.....

Surely it has to be converted back to analogue for listening ?

Once the signal’s been through a chord DAC for soportapic realtime digital reconstitutionisation, it'll be closer to the original master tape than any piece of vinyl could ever be.

The Strat (Fender) posted:

I’ve never understood the logic of digitising a signal from a high quality TT.             

Well given that (with Linn) everything is digitised in the Preamp and then DSP for crossover, then it makes perfect sense (to me) to digitise it at earliest point.

You wouldn’t use this Phono stage with a Naim system... but perhaps people who want to use a Chord DAVE direct to power amp.

Rattlesnaic posted:

Surely it has to be converted back to analogue for listening ?

But as Linn do all kinds of room correction and crossover digitally...

Simon-in-Suffolk posted:

The Strat (Fender) posted:

I’ve never understood the logic of digitising a signal from a high quality TT.             

I am glad it is not just me.....

I've not digitised many LPs from my LP 12 but that's largely as the digitised copies never sounded the same.......

The Strat (Fender) posted:

I’ve never understood the logic of digitising a signal from a high quality TT.             

One additional thing to note is that digitising the signal from the turntable allows RIAA correction to be done in digital domain which *may* allow for less distortion.  In the future Linn could also tweak the RIAA conversion or add alternative corrections (e.g. the DIN curve and even for 78s bespoke curves per label).

The Strat (Fender) posted:

I’ve never understood the logic of digitising a signal from a high quality TT.             

Surely it's because digital is better, have you not kept up at all?

.sjb

Maybe someone should try listening - preferably someone who doesn’t know it’s digital.

I think the main reason is Linn Space Optimisation, apparently some Linn users could achieve some significant SQ improvement by fine tuning  the Linn  propriety SO technology.

Is this the LP12 set up that costs £18k?

Why?????????

I can see how this might work with all Linn systems and that it fits well with that philosophy. I am interested in the old all analogue version so the U2 is of no interest to me. Heartened to see both versions appear on my dealers website. There might also be a glut of them about to appear on the second hand market....

Or I just get a Superline next...

Stu

Bob the Builder posted:

Why?????????

Probably because any frequency adjustment, required or desired, may sound better if done in the digital domain, and certainly any individual tailoring is much easier.

My understanding is that when ADC and DAC are matched, as surely would be here (likewise in the Nova where I understand the same thing is done with analog inputs), then the reconstructed sound is much easier to get indistinguishable from the original.