Supercap......

Posted by: The Strat (Fender) on 06 February 2018

....in bound

Posted on: 18 March 2018 by Naim Gary

I had an 82/HiCap/250 a few years ago and changed to a SuperCap and thought it was one of the biggest improvements I had even made. It was a total game changer for me on the 82. I had previously had a 72/HiCap/250 and loved the sound for many years. When I first got the 82 there was something not quite right that I could not put my finger on. When I got the SuperCap it was all right again and better than ever. More recently I got a 282 and the SuperCap still sounds great. 

I know you will continue to enjoy your new SuperCap Lindsey as it settles into your system.

Regards,

Gary

Posted on: 18 March 2018 by The Strat (Fender)

I’m now running it 24/7;with FM radio.   

Posted on: 19 March 2018 by boom
wenger2015 posted:

Congratulations on your purchase, very interested to know the scale of difference compared to the HC?

keep us posted 

 

+1. I’m currently at this cross road, unfortunately no chance to demo down under, dealers don’t tend to stock them here in NZ.

Posted on: 19 March 2018 by The Strat (Fender)

Okay guys bearing in mind that it only came out the box yesterday and was left warming up overnight.

But this morning played on vinyl Jeff Beck at Ronnie's, on CD some of Eric Clapton and Steve Winwood at Madison, and whilst I've been working Radio 3.  Textures and nuances greatly enhanced but it's a lot more than subtle, the performance is just greater across the piece.  It's also richer but with more dynamics.

I'll write more after a few days.

Regards,

Lindsay

Posted on: 19 March 2018 by Massimo Bertola
The Strat (Fender) posted:

It’s going on the 282 to maximise the benefit. 

It will.

Posted on: 20 March 2018 by Matthew Johns
The Strat (Fender) posted:

Okay guys bearing in mind that it only came out the box yesterday and was left warming up overnight.

But this morning played on vinyl Jeff Beck at Ronnie's, on CD some of Eric Clapton and Steve Winwood at Madison, and whilst I've been working Radio 3.  Textures and nuances greatly enhanced but it's a lot more than subtle, the performance is just greater across the piece.  It's also richer but with more dynamics.

I'll write more after a few days.

Regards,

Lindsay

Keep me posted on how it evolves as have similar system to yours and really interested in where supercap takes things 

I myself have just traded in my SN2 for a 250DR, now expectantly awaiting delivery :0 

Posted on: 20 March 2018 by cdboy

Boom. We have very similar systems and I suggest you take the plunge. You should get a healthy trade in for the HiCap DR. The SuperCap opens up your system and you will finally hear what HiFi is all about. It is game changing.

Posted on: 20 March 2018 by feeling_zen

Give the HCDR a whirl on your Headline. I did when adding a SC to my 282 and decided to keep it. 

Posted on: 21 March 2018 by boom
cdboy posted:

Boom. We have very similar systems and I suggest you take the plunge. You should get a healthy trade in for the HiCap DR. The SuperCap opens up your system and you will finally hear what HiFi is all about. It is game changing.

Thanks for the vote of confidence cdboy. A very fine system you have indeed. We’re you at 282 before 252 and experience the SC upgrade on the 282? It’s interesting reading on this forum,  those for and those against the upgrade, it leaves one a little confused. It’s been a great rubbit hole to be immersed in over the past month.

Posted on: 21 March 2018 by cdboy

Yes I was at 282 level. The only danger in moving to SCap, as many here will agree, is it leads to the 252 quite quickly. 

Posted on: 21 March 2018 by feeling_zen

What is "quickly"? I've been at 282/SCdr for 4 years and not given an upgrade much thought.

Posted on: 21 March 2018 by AlanJ

I did this upgrade last summer and was quite stunned at the improvement. Deeper and wider soundstage, more dynamics.. In fact, the kind of improvement I had, hitherto, “imagined” would require a leap from 250dr to 300dr (and I say that having never actually heard a 300).

No leap to 252 or 300 planed for me.  Next up - a new cartridge and (hopefully) a Keel sub-chassis for LP12.

Enjoy the new SCDR

Posted on: 21 March 2018 by Adam Zielinski

And I’m patiently waiting (6 weeks now) for a Burndy cable to connect my Supercap to my SuperLine.
282 remains powered by a single HiCap DR - I just love that fast and agile sound of this combo.

Posted on: 21 March 2018 by Vauxhall mkII
cdboy posted:

Yes I was at 282 level. The only danger in moving to SCap, as many here will agree, is it leads to the 252 quite quickly. 

I'll say!  Less than a week for me. 

Posted on: 21 March 2018 by The Strat (Fender)

Sorry if I’m engaging in hyperbole it’s simply awesome.  

Posted on: 21 March 2018 by nigelb
Vauxhall mkII posted:
cdboy posted:

Yes I was at 282 level. The only danger in moving to SCap, as many here will agree, is it leads to the 252 quite quickly. 

I'll say!  Less than a week for me. 

And about a year for me! But I had always planned to go from 282 to 252 when I put the SuperCapDR on my 282, and it does great things for the 282 anyway as (some)others have mentioned. So it was a no brainer for me. I do recognise however there is no consensus here. What I would say is only listen to those with direct experience and put conjecture to one side.

Oh, and one other thing……..demo, demo and demo again, in you own system at home if possible.

Lindsay, you might want to turn a blind eye to the above!

Posted on: 21 March 2018 by Vauxhall mkII
NigelB posted,
And about a year for me! But I had always planned to go from 282 to 252 when I put the SuperCapDR on my 282, and it does great things for the 282 anyway as (some)others have mentioned. So it was a no brainer for me. I do recognise however there is no consensus here. What I would say is only listen to those with direct experience and put conjecture to one side.
 

I hadn't planned a SuperCap upgrade, but having had my 250 DR'd, without auditioning before  , I found my system had lost it's mojo. It had become quite shouty and uncouth to my ears and so I was playing it less and at progressively lower volume. 

The introduction of the SuperCap was an act of desperation, but it delivered so successfully that I had to hear what its natural partner, the 252, brought to the party. Needless to say, neither black box left my system after their respective auditions, and I'm now in danger of loosing interest in all other hobbies, as I revel in the musicality that  they have introduced to my, previously, none too shaby Hifi system  

Paul.

Posted on: 21 March 2018 by Foot tapper

Great outcome Paul, especially after that unwelcome wobble. Enjoy.

Best regards, FT

Posted on: 22 March 2018 by The Strat (Fender)

Just spinning the Healer - oh John-Lee where did that voice come from?

Posted on: 27 March 2018 by boom

Hi Lindsay, how are you getting on with your new love? I am interested to her you findings on how the lower frequencies have changed? The reason I asked is after all the positive comments on the SCDR on the 282 I have pulled the trigger and ordered a new SCDR un auditioned as it’s near impossible to do that where I live.

I’ve just had an, o sh#t moment, as I have just installed a SH Hiline in my system and as much as I love the detail, blackness, voicing, sparkle etc to the higher frequencies,I feel it has lost a bit of warm down low and that’s what I love with my music. I just Had a thought, what if the SC bring more of the same, but this time in buckets

Just a little freaked out right now

Cheers

Boom

Posted on: 29 March 2018 by wenger2015

How’s that Supercap sounding, now it’s had abit of time to bed in? 

Posted on: 01 April 2018 by The Strat (Fender)

To be honest haven’t listened as much as intended as I have been distracted by other family stuff.   Intend to have a couple of good sessions over the next few days.  But also waiting for my hi-cap for my Superline to come back from Salisbury having had the full DR treatment. 

More to follow. 

Regards,

Lindsay

Posted on: 01 April 2018 by wenger2015
The Strat (Fender) posted:

To be honest haven’t listened as much as intended as I have been distracted by other family stuff.   Intend to have a couple of good sessions over the next few days.  But also waiting for my hi-cap for my Superline to come back from Salisbury having had the full DR treatment. 

More to follow. 

Regards,

Lindsay

Look forward to an update when the time comes...

Posted on: 11 April 2018 by The Strat (Fender)

Guys,

Okay as I have indicated elsewhere my SC arriving coincided with other family issues which meant I have had less time than I would have wished to listen to my collection.  Nonetheless it has now been powered up for 4 weeks and had a few hours music put through it.   

First a conclusion, it is a very considerable upgrade across the piece.   The music from analogue and digital sources regardless of genre is just more organic and life like.  Textures are more refined, rhythms more natural and the music just grabs you more.   

Some specifics.  On Tennstedt’s superb performance of the Beethoven Eroica the slow sublime 2nd movement is more emotional but the intricacies of the woodwind are far more accessible.   However, the jaunty 3rd movement/Scherzo just demonstrates impeccable timing.  On Sting’s Sister Moon the exquisite tones of Branford Marsalis sax are just laid bare and the vocals just so much more emotional.  On Jeff Beck at Ronnie’s when he duets with Joss Stone on Curtis Mayfield’s Ready the syncopation and interplay of the musicians is so much more obvious.   

A game changer. 

Regards,

Lindsay

Posted on: 11 April 2018 by wenger2015

Adding a SCdr is going to be my next upgrade, so it’s good to hear your positive comments.

If it provides a substantial improvement in all areas or a game changer as you describe it, then it seems an obvious move for me when the time comes.

Any plans for a 252 at some point?