Comrade Corbyn

Burn the witch! Burn the witch!

I guess they wouldn't be so desperate to smear if they weren't worried... 

sjbabbey posted:

Burn the witch! Burn the witch!

I've not heard him referred to as a witch before. Not a bad idea though.

Clive B posted:

sjbabbey posted:

Burn the witch! Burn the witch!

I've not heard him referred to as a witch before. Not a bad idea though.

I though we had moved on to talking about Theresa May... but there was a typo (twice!)

thebigfredc posted:

A lot of stuff in the papers about the current Leader of the Opposition hanging around with top Eastern Bloc  spys in the eighties (sounds like a good title for a Fall song) although I notice they don't go so far as to actually call him a spy. I remember the Labour Party ending their conferences with a rousing rendition of the 'Red Flag' during the Foot and early Kinnock eras. He seems to have been more enthused with the Soviet Union than the European Union.

Think USSR has had a bad press for too many years.. We have listened too much to the US and how bad russians suposedley are... Ive been to Russia a few times as I have family there.. Its a great place with lovely people who have a positive outlook on life. 

Hello Garry,

Of course you can interpret my posts anyway you like and I have no doubt most of the present day people in Russia are lovely too. My post doesn't question any of that. It is about Corbyn and his past involvement with the apparatus of the Soviet Union in a different era.

Ray

And therein lies the rub.   Simply Jeremy explain how the meetings came about and the subject matter.   As best you can recall.  

I remember the Virgin trains fiasco. Richard Branson provided video footage of Corbyn walking past empty seats. It's a matter of credibility: who are you Corbyn? Are you trying to pretend that you're more than you really are?

Oh no doubt If you believe Teresa May is an ineffective Prime Minister - she is - wait until Jeremy Corbyn takes office.  He may be a principled socialist, thecurrent rumpus may be much ado about nothing, but the economic chaos that will engulfe the UK will be on a scale not seen before.   

Minh Nguyen posted:

I remember the Virgin trains fiasco. Richard Branson provided video footage of Corbyn walking past empty seats. It's a matter of credibility: who are you Corbyn? Are you trying to pretend that you're more than you really are?

Did you know that there was later footage which came to light which actually supported Corbyn’s point... footage with other passengers sitting on the floor inbetween carriages?

On both sides I think carefully edited footage was released as propaganda.

TM is not a typical PM in that she lacks charisma which is crucial for the media age we live in and that this is often read by the population as not possessing true leadership qualities. I think there is something in this and it's fair to say she has been promoted one step beyond her abilities.

She's obviously diligent, hard working and made a good Home Secretary. Ironically these same qualities may well ensure that she leads us to a successful exit from the EU although I am sure she will not be rewarded by her Party with a long stint as PM.

Eloise posted:

Minh Nguyen posted:

I remember the Virgin trains fiasco. Richard Branson provided video footage of Corbyn walking past empty seats. It's a matter of credibility: who are you Corbyn? Are you trying to pretend that you're more than you really are?

Did you know that there was later footage which came to light which actually supported Corbyn’s point... footage with other passengers sitting on the floor inbetween carriages?

On both sides I think carefully edited footage was released as propaganda.

I would prefer to give more credence to Branson's claims. In my humble opinion it was a publicity stunt that went wrong for Corbyn.

I actually feel sorry for TM.  She was a remainer and took on the challenge when nobody else was anything like capable.  And before people start jumping up and down and saying JC’s moment is coming just remember the chaos there has been around his attempts to put together a shadow cabinet.  

The one politician who, from the point of charisma, still stands out...   Is Boris Johnson...  

Imagine him as PM...  

Not sure who would be worse him or Jeremy Corbyn!

"She's obviously diligent, hard working and made a good Home Secretary. Ironically these same qualities may well ensure that she leads us to a successful exit from the EU although I am sure she will not be rewarded by her Party with a long stint as PM."

Sorry, but as Home secretary, she cannot be described as being good. Certainly not if you are a Policeman anyway. And come to think of it, she wasn't all that on immigration either, though that's another story. (My apologies for any poor grammar from the purists).

GTB-Buckaroo posted:

<snip> (My apologies for any poor grammar from the purists).

I didn't realise that the purists were using poor grammar (but it's kind of you to apologise on their behalf). 

Sorry, I just couldn't resist that!

But you got my drift even if I didn't

Oh yes, I did fully understand; so your intended communication was perfectly achieved, and isn't that the purpose of language?

Then I took great delight in the irony that, using humour, I could reply as a purist!

TM lacks the persona, casisma & whatever is needed to be a magnetic leader to appeal to the public.  I'm not so she has that much support of her party in the house either, some are keeping quiet because they understand the need for unity,  others have no alternative unifying leader to put forward, others fear for the next election & a lot more than a few are a combination of all that.     No doubt its JC in ascendancy now.   I can see it coming after brexit - & that alone will require stability for a few more years than the "transition" period - then an election where labour will win by some margin, despite if Momentum do sucede in having all PLP candidates 're-selected' or not.   JC & his outdated socialist ideology will then will be a re-run of the previous left wing labour & the biggest casualty will be GB Ltd. 

Yes she reminds me of John Major in so much as an accidental PM who just happened to be in the right place at the right time to get the top job.

They say we get the politicians we deserve so I suppose we are to blame to some degree although I  think the great British public have enough about them not to let Agent COB and his buddies McDonald and Mcluskey get in.

Hasn't old McDonald done well for himself since he sold the farm!

I’ve had a mischievous thought.  If/when Jeremy Corbyn becomes PM will he have Dennis Skinner in his cabinet?!!

Do you mean as in six-foot-under wooden cabinet? 

Dennis Skinner as Foreign Secretary

He's dead.