Is a new app likely on release of the new streamers?

Oh god I hope not! 

The transition from N-Stream to The App was a long and unpleasant process.

The App looks like it will be able to handle it.

I'll nip this one in the bud before anyone starts worrying:

No. Same app.

Ok, that's a shame, I find the app rather useless and filled with flaws. The most annoying being that if you come off the app it has to refind your streamer which it quite often doesn't. I do have the settings to remain on enabled also.

I hope not. It works well enough for me currently. Some releases haven't been so good, but the current version ticks all the right boxes for me.

If it does get revamped I will have to resist any inclination to update, and make certain that auto update is disabled in the AppStore. 

Popeye posted:

Ok, that's a shame, I find the app rather useless and filled with flaws. The most annoying being that if you come off the app it has to refind your streamer which it quite often doesn't. I do have the settings to remain on enabled also.

Assign your streamer a static IP and then assign it manually in the app. This totally fixed it for me.

Bananahead posted:

Popeye posted:

Ok, that's a shame, I find the app rather useless and filled with flaws. The most annoying being that if you come off the app it has to refind your streamer which it quite often doesn't. I do have the settings to remain on enabled also.

Assign your streamer a static IP and then assign it manually in the app. This totally fixed it for me.

Thanks, I will give that ago. Is it easy enough to do?

Popeye posted:

Bananahead posted:

Popeye posted:

Ok, that's a shame, I find the app rather useless and filled with flaws. The most annoying being that if you come off the app it has to refind your streamer which it quite often doesn't. I do have the settings to remain on enabled also.

Assign your streamer a static IP and then assign it manually in the app. This totally fixed it for me.

Thanks, I will give that ago. Is it easy enough to do?

Yes.  Agree or disagree.

Nick

Popeye posted:

Bananahead posted:

Popeye posted:

Ok, that's a shame, I find the app rather useless and filled with flaws. The most annoying being that if you come off the app it has to refind your streamer which it quite often doesn't. I do have the settings to remain on enabled also.

Assign your streamer a static IP and then assign it manually in the app. This totally fixed it for me.

Thanks, I will give that ago. Is it easy enough to do?

Start by going into the app and adding a room manually. You just need to give it a name and specify the IP address. If that solves your problem then you just need to go into your router setup page and assign a static IP.

Bananahead posted:

Popeye posted:

Ok, that's a shame, I find the app rather useless and filled with flaws. The most annoying being that if you come off the app it has to refind your streamer which it quite often doesn't. I do have the settings to remain on enabled also.

Assign your streamer a static IP and then assign it manually in the app. This totally fixed it for me.

Had another app flake out, just trying your static IP idea, decided to also uninstall and reinstall apps as after assigning static IP I could not power off via the iPad app or Android (track being played kst frooze on display) - so another power cycle.

I'm sure there'll have to be an updated version of the app. The new ND5XS2 doesn't have a screen, and therefore I'm assuming all of the set-up and access to tools will have to happen through the app (and I don't think it's capable of that now).

Gavin B posted:

I'm sure there'll have to be an updated version of the app. The new ND5XS2 doesn't have a screen, and therefore I'm assuming all of the set-up and access to tools will have to happen through the app (and I don't think it's capable of that now).

There are some settings/information currently available via the home screen e.g. imput settings but clearly these would have to be extended to enable such functions as system automation and factory reset.

The new Unitis, including the Core, already have virtually all of their controls accessible via the app. There is also a web browser interface. Between these two options, I can't see why you couldn't easily cover all controls without the need for a screen or remote at all. 

sjbabbey posted:

Gavin B posted:

I'm sure there'll have to be an updated version of the app. The new ND5XS2 doesn't have a screen, and therefore I'm assuming all of the set-up and access to tools will have to happen through the app (and I don't think it's capable of that now).

There are some settings/information currently available via the home screen e.g. imput settings but clearly these would have to be extended to enable such functions as system automation and factory reset.

Or each unit has a webpage for such things which would make more sense.

ChrisSU posted:

The new Unitis, including the Core, already have virtually all of their controls accessible via the app. There is also a web browser interface. Between these two options, I can't see why you couldn't easily cover all controls without the need for a screen or remote at all. 

I use the proper remote more than the app, as I find the app just plain awful to use hopefully a new improved version will pop up. Thankfully most of my listening is via Roon, Spotify or BBCiplayer radio (via chromecast) so I dont have to use the Naim app for 90% of the time. The web app is useless it controls nothing. might be useful for the core but for the players it does nothing but allow you to input an airplay password. 

Glad it's not just me then. I use the remote more than the app also.

The app should be a slick interface like the Spotify app or tidal app, I think it's awful and one of the worst on my phone.

Roon is your solution here.

Bananahead posted:

Popeye posted:

Bananahead posted:

Popeye posted:

Ok, that's a shame, I find the app rather useless and filled with flaws. The most annoying being that if you come off the app it has to refind your streamer which it quite often doesn't. I do have the settings to remain on enabled also.

Assign your streamer a static IP and then assign it manually in the app. This totally fixed it for me.

Thanks, I will give that ago. Is it easy enough to do?

Start by going into the app and adding a room manually. You just need to give it a name and specify the IP address. If that solves your problem then you just need to go into your router setup page and assign a static IP.

Thanks Bananahead (gosh that sounds so bad).

Tried your suggestion and So far a robust solution.

Hi guys, I am new to the forum here and I have had the pleasure of listening to the uniti nova for two months now. I saw this topic about the app and wanted to join in, since I miss a feature in the app that would've been handy. 

I listen to Tidal a lot on my Nova, but unlike the Spotify app, the Naim app does not enable you to skip songs, pauze/play or control volume in the 'quick menu' of my iOS devices. Is there a way to enable it or do you know if this will be featured in a future update?

It would be so much easier if my device is locked, you can pauze/play or control volume instantly (with volume buttons on the side). 

GlennGTR posted:

I listen to Tidal a lot on my Nova, but unlike the Spotify app, the Naim app does not enable you to skip songs, pauze/play or control volume in the 'quick menu' of my iOS devices. Is there a way to enable it or do you know if this will be featured in a future update?

It would be so much easier if my device is locked, you can pauze/play or control volume instantly (with volume buttons on the side). 

If you use the Tidal iOS app, instead of the Naim app, you can play it to your Nova using Chromecast. This will allow you to control from the Tidal app, and use the iPhone volume buttons and locked screen controls. 

Obsydian posted:

Bananahead posted:

Popeye posted:

Ok, that's a shame, I find the app rather useless and filled with flaws. The most annoying being that if you come off the app it has to refind your streamer which it quite often doesn't. I do have the settings to remain on enabled also.

Assign your streamer a static IP and then assign it manually in the app. This totally fixed it for me.

Had another app flake out, just trying your static IP idea, decided to also uninstall and reinstall apps as after assigning static IP I could not power off via the iPad app or Android (track being played kst frooze on display) - so another power cycle.

Hi Guys,

First things first ... the app should not "flake" out and if it is having problems finding devices when resuming or starting then typically that indicates that there is an underlying issue that ideally should be resolved - assigning static IP addresses to get round this is only a workaround and not a fix - but I'll skip that discussion here.

Anyway, I see people saying "assign a static IP" here but very rarely is it mentioned that you have to be careful in doing so and I think that's getting lost / forgotten in the passage of time.

Yes, you can assign static IP addresses to devices on networks (to any network devices) but you also need to be sure that in doing so you don't cause other issues with devices set to static IP addresses later conficting with devices that are set to DHCP being given the same address.

I would normally recomend that - unless you really know what you are doing - you *RESERVE* an IP address in your router DHCP server configuration for a device that you always want to be at the same address on your network, that way if you change your router for another one at some point in the future (maybe you change your ISP) and the new router comes set to do DHCP on 192.168.1.x range instead of 192.168.0.x then you will still be able to "see" your device on your network with your new router after just a reboot. Reserving an IP address on your router for a device means that the router will make sure that the device always gets the same IP address and it doesn't give that IP address to something else.

It is very common for people when they are giving devices static IP addresses (as opposed to reserving addresses on the router) to simply set the device to the address that it currently has - this is a *BIG* no-no as the address it has currently will have been allocated by DHCP and will therefore be in the routers DHCP allocation pool to be handed out by the router as it sees fit ... if you set a device to a static IP address that is also an address that is in the routers DHCP pool then it is inevitable that at some point the router will be asked for a DHCP address by another network device and - as the router sees that address as not being used according to its DHCP allocation table - it can then give out that address to a different device leading to an IP conflict. (Yes, there is a network mechanism in place to try to prevent this in that when a device is given an IP address via DHCP then it should check to see if that address actually is free before it takes that address but that frequently isn't correctly implemented.)

If you are going to set static IP addresses then you need to make sure that they are outside the DHCP range of your DHCP server but still within the scope of your subnet ... so for example you might have the IP address of your router set to 192.168.1.1, the DHCP server on your router set to give out IP addresses in the range 192.168.1.2 to 192.168.1.200 and then you can use addresses 192.168.1.201 to 192.168.1.254 for assigning static addresses to (assuming a normal subnet mask of 255.255.255.0) - hence why I would strongly recommend that if you want a device to stay at a known IP address then you should reserve a DHCP address for it rather than setting a static address.

Everyone still awake?

Phil

I get the message I will leave well alone.....as it’s all working fine????

If you use the Tidal iOS app, instead of the Naim app, you can play it to your Nova using Chromecast. This will allow you to control from the Tidal app, and use the iPhone volume buttons and locked screen controls. 

Thank you Chrissu! Will do that in the future. Does Chromecast support high resolution audio as well, higher than 16/44?

I'll also try Phil's suggestion as this problem does occur on my Nova as well. 

LOL - Thanks Phil, will undo (as used the router reserved IP), plus i'm paranoid it (static IP) sounds worse.

I can live with power cycling, though the Mrs is now streaming (i gave no permission ) from her mobile with Spotify.

GlennGTR posted:

If you use the Tidal iOS app, instead of the Naim app, you can play it to your Nova using Chromecast. This will allow you to control from the Tidal app, and use the iPhone volume buttons and locked screen controls. 

Thank you Chrissu! Will do that in the future. Does Chromecast support high resolution audio as well, higher than 16/44?

I think it can support up to 24/96, but I've only tried it with regular 16/44. Not that there are many web streaming services that would need it at the moment.