Roon

That’s my experience too. Radio is very entertaining, digging deep into your collection, and it’s intelligent approach to playing classical and opera is a refreshing change from the strictly track based approaches of other alternatives. The lightening fast indexed access and the completely fuss free updating of both the app and the Core is a relief. What’s not to like.....?

Roon is the bees knees - no question.

Just added an Allo DigiOne to my system to act as a Roon Bridge. Streaming via Roon Core over RaaT has brought an sound improvement over the NDX upnp. ! 

The App is great as well, show how to manage meta data and join people into there collections. Only a few days in but a great experience so far. 

Rob

There have been a couple of threads on Roon over the past year - it clearly does what some people want, but doesn’t appeal to all. If used as a renderer not just as library, its sound quality reportedly is not as good as other renderers (though that is not something I have assessed myself)

Roon is the icing on the cake. Been using it over a year and it puts all other software solutions to shame and for multiroom its the business. The integration of Tidal into your own collection is seem less and opens up to a much larger collection and only requires the one app and point of entry no switching sources. The app itself is a dream to use and puts the Naim app and many others  to shame.  If it was not for  Roon integration my Atom would have gone back to the shop, iI could never use upnp for anything again. The  fact you can also create simple but great sounding DIY endpoints is a bonus. As for sound it doesn't have one as should be the case. On my Atom it sounds the bomb. 

Oh and their support and forum are superb, very open-minded, knowledgeable and friendly place to hang out.

+1, I love roon and have been flitting between manufacturers products which enable me to use roon but have now got myself and Atom and cant be more happy. the atom sounds superb and roon just compliments it.

well done Naim and Roon.

If I just use my Atom to stream Tidal and iradio with the odd USB key now and again is there any advantage to using Roon? 

Mercky posted:

If I just use my Atom to stream Tidal and iradio with the odd USB key now and again is there any advantage to using Roon? 

You can have a free trial to see if you like it. Clearly many people love it - but others not, however credit to the, for making a trial easy.  I tried it and reported my own conclusions in another thread some time last year.

Mercky posted:

If I just use my Atom to stream Tidal and iradio with the odd USB key now and again is there any advantage to using Roon? 

From an interface point of view very little unless you want to create a Tidal Library in Roon (you can add Tidal albums to Roon and it automatically adds your Tidal favourites) and then you have the full monty library capability.

It gives you the option of room correction and digital sound equalisation and sound levelling.

It offers a very easy (and cheap) route into multi-room.

as IB suggests give it a trial but I think it makes much more sense if you have already have a ripped library.

.sjb

I love Roon....just a shame my NDX does not support Roon natively. I hope Naim consider addding support (soon).

Not with NDX or NDS....they‘ ll do it with their new platform of streamers.

I am not impressed, after all NDX is still actively sold. I find it odd that Naim can’t make the effort to add Roon support. 

You could use the digital input of NDX wit a roon friendly front end...f.ex. Macmini with roon bridge (free sw) and usb to sdpif converter If you don‘t want to sell NDX.

Its not a question of effort,  the legacy streamers do not have the required hardware.

I am using Allo Digione player. It does a good job. Never the less, I am disappointed that Naim can’t add it natively. That’s it.

I seem to recall reading that the new generation of streamers will have roon capability.

it does not seem surprising to me that older products might not be upgradeable to include it. 

But meanwhile you can try Roon as suggested, and decide if it is for you.

I posted the following in the Beta forum

Re. Roon, if you want to make your previous generation Naim product behave as a Roon Endpoint, then the Sonore UPnP Bridge is certainly one way to go.

Ignore the USB output of the Sonore products and trying to convert to S/PDIF input, the UPnP Bridge converts the packet based stream from the Roon Core, and presents it to the Naim player as it had come from a UPnP streamer. There is also a dedicated UPnP Bridge server product offered by Small Green Computer for under $300.
The UPnP Bridge can be configured to output WAV, and without 'FLAC compression' set in the Roon configure, will transcode FLAC/ALAC to WAV and with a DoP setting will pass through native DSD64 from DSF files, so the same configuration as I use with Asset R6, and a comparable SQ.
Just need to ensure the device is running the latest SonicoribiterOS (2.5 or 2.6) and the latest Bridge version (it was only these latest versions that enabled this mode, and provided the equivalent SQ)

The other way to go, is a DigiOne player, which is a S/PDIF output card on a RaspberryPi, but all packaged as an 'appliance' that outputs S/PDIF into your Naim player. However, this in effect is just using your Naim player as a DAC, as the asynchronous packet based stream is being converted to a synchronous stream off-board and subject to conversion issues.
But then the digital inputs on the Naim players are also very good.

However both suitable ways to embrace Roon without any upgrades to your Naim products (while we wait for the availability of the NDX2, ND5XS2 and hold breath for the ND555).
Of course, still holding breath for Roon to support software unpacking (1st unfold) of MQA files, but I am told its coming.

Simon