4.6 update and upgrade sound quality ?

Update done 5 mins ago.

Foot is now tapping vigorously ????????

Alan Vega sounds really menacing now!!

My Unitiqute 2 in our day room sounds a lot better too. Just more natural and open. Am I fooling myself? Maybe, but anyway it's really great.

best

David

Finkfan posted:

I’ve not had chance to update my 272 yet, but I’d be interested to hear of any improvement from others who have. 

272 updated yesterday, but spent last night checking all inputs were working, so didn’t stream upnp properly until I came in today. It does sound different in a better way. Just listening to Tori Amos native invader, and I have no desire to stop listening. Very immersive sound. More open and bass is better than before. Certainly worth the effort!

Excellent guys.

I can’t see I’ll have time tonight to get it done. Probably a job for the weekend. 

Mike-B posted:

........  we need @hungryhalibut to chip in (or should that be swim in)    he wrote up a good & positive description of the 272 sound with the new DSP in the beta test thread.  

Halibut and chips Mike?

ND5-XS updated tonight. Like others I could be imagining it, but it sounds like a nice upgrade to me . Bass is deeper and tighter and an overall improvement in clarity

Sorry but just posted a query on the other thread regarding SQ benefits of this upgrade for my  Uniti2. I would be obliged if anyone out there has an answer for me, ta.

Like others, I also perceive the firmware to bring some SQ benefits with tighter and more pronounced bass and able to play at lower listening levels.  I normally turn the 272 to about 35 and closer to 40 if I want to turn it up. Since the update, leaving it at 35 is more than enough volume to get immersed. 

Does anyone actually know what the DSP update to the 272 means?,is it now on par with the new,soon to be released streamers...like the NDX2?Or would that require updated hardware?

 How do I download the drivers using a Mac?  When I open Naim Streamer Updater, the only item I see on the drop down menu is Bluetooth Incoming Port.

docmark posted:

 How do I download the drivers using a Mac?  When I open Naim Streamer Updater, the only item I see on the drop down menu is Bluetooth Incoming Port.

This is the direct link to the USB driver for Mac. The link was included in the PDF named "Naim Streaming Products_Firmware Update Guide (MAC)" contained in the download folder of the 4.4 Software Update from the Naim website.

Thanks Rightcoastants - everything worked smoothly, my 272 rebooted and just after doing some listening, I must say that I'm impressed.  Soundstage is wider, bass seems more controlled and not at all sloppy.  I don't know that it's a black box upgrade, but something sure sounds better.

I’m having issues installing the USB driver on my laptop. I just get the message...

Cannot complete the device driver installation wizard

Errors were encountered etc. 

Ive tried a few time. Same every time. 

Any ideas?? 

Finkfan posted:

I’m having issues installing the USB driver on my laptop. I just get the message...

Cannot complete the device driver installation wizard

Errors were encountered etc. 

Ive tried a few time. Same every time. 

Any ideas?? 

Are you running one of the recent Mac OS? 

Eoink posted:

Mike-B posted:

........  we need @hungryhalibut to chip in (or should that be swim in)    he wrote up a good & positive description of the 272 sound with the new DSP in the beta test thread.  

Halibut and chips Mike?

More lyrical, engaging and natural was my conclusion. It seems easier to follow the musical strands, but without being overs analytical. It was slightly different in beta with the 272: with the other streamers Naim found a DSP version they were all happy with, but with the 272 it was felt that more performance could be squeezed out, which thankfully came to fruition. One interesting test I did was with a Gang if Four album, Return the Gift, where the new DSP was throwing vocal effects six feet to the left of the left speaker, which I didn’t recall happening previously. It takes a few days to get used to the new sound and assess changes - it cannot be done as quick A/B comparisons. It’s where the beta becomes interesting, it’s easy to identify if X or Y works or doesn’t (often hard to fix for Naim’s tech team thought) but much more challenging to identify which version of DSP is best, bearing in mind that everyone’s setup is different and that what is initially impressive can be annoying long term. I think, with the 272 at least, that Naim have done a fantastic job on this, and have squeezed more performance from the humble streaming preamp than I thought possible. It’s very reassuring that, so far, others are pleased with the changes. 

Adam Zielinski posted:

Finkfan posted:

I’m having issues installing the USB driver on my laptop. I just get the message...

Cannot complete the device driver installation wizard

Errors were encountered etc. 

Ive tried a few time. Same every time. 

Any ideas?? 

Are you running one of the recent Mac OS? 

Hi Adam

No, I’m running Windows 7 or 8, can’t remember which now, on a Sony viao laptop 

I have a similar problem, I think.  Plugged USB cable from USB hub on PC to usb socket on NDS.  Update can't see any devices.  Do I need some driver of some sort?

Cheers

Steve

Beachcomber posted:

I have a similar problem, I think.  Plugged USB cable from USB hub on PC to usb socket on NDS.  Update can't see any devices.  Do I need some driver of some sort?

Cheers

Steve

Steve,

You can find the usb drivers here:

https://www.silabs.com/product...t-bridge-vcp-drivers

Thanks for that link.

4.6 installed on NDS here and sounding as good as ever. Audible difference on my NDS? Not sure. But it doesn't need to sound any better.

Is there a simple step by step guide (from downloading the 4.6 firmware to your PC or Mac to what to do when you plug your laptop into the streamer usb and in between)?

Yes, take a look at the streaming forum home page 

It looks easy enough once I can get the USB driver installed. Will try the link [@mention:17757776931519664] posted this evening 

Will the upgrade help me as well, having ND5XS with nDAC ?

If the upgrade for the ND5XS only has improved on the things that the nDAC takes care of (when paired together) then there will be no reason for me to upgrade the firmware. 

Or ???

Claus

According to the upgrade process, there mention the PC need connect to the network use wired, anybody try to use the wireless instead of wired ?

Is it wireless connect to the network also work ?