4.6 update and upgrade sound quality ?

Posted by: French Rooster on 03 April 2018

hello,

i have an nds and wonder if the 4.6 update for this week will change the sound quality for my nds. The multi room aspect doesn’t interest me...  if somebody can answer me. thanks 

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by Mike-B

It can be done over wireless,  some laptops have no ethernet connection.   Personally, although I've tried wireless (once) I always use ethernet:    I have to run the USB cable,   the extra time needed to run the ethernet to my router or net-switch positions is nothing.

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by S3
Finkfan posted:

Yes, take a look at the streaming forum home page 

Got it. Thanks @Finkfan

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by Japtimscarlet

Just updated my 272

Left it plugged into the xpsdr

Used an old laptop and usb cable only

Both 272 and laptop we on WiFi ...so no other cables but usb

All went well ..no issues... have never done an update before..

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by fernar

When I did my upgrade on both the N272 and Unitlite - both hardware were connected to the internet via a wired connection, but my laptop was connected via wifi.... in both cases the update worked without any issues.

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by Japtimscarlet

Just thought I would clarify this point as ( if you have a laptop ) there is no need to move the equipment from its home on the fraim 

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by Finkfan

Useful info guys. If I can’t get the driver to work I’ll try and update via Ethernet. 

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by David Hendon

@Finkfan Unfortunately you need to have the USB connection and as well both the unit and the PC have to be connected to the internet (I suspect the latter is actually on the same Lan with IP addresses allocated, but it boils down to the same thing). It won't work without both and the reason is that some of the update is delivered over the USB connection and some of it is delivered over the Ethernet connection.

best

David

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by Beachcomber
sjbabbey posted:

Steve,

You can find the usb drivers here:

https://www.silabs.com/product...t-bridge-vcp-drivers

Many thanks for that - I'll give it a go tonight

Cheers

Steve

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by hungryhalibut
fernar posted:

When I did my upgrade on both the N272 and Unitlite - both hardware were connected to the internet via a wired connection, but my laptop was connected via wifi.... in both cases the update worked without any issues.

I’ve always used WiFi, without problems. 

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by Finkfan

Thanks David 

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by Timo
Finkfan posted:

Useful info guys. If I can’t get the driver to work I’ll try and update via Ethernet. 

Do you have access to another laptop? I successfully installed the USB driver on my Dell laptop  (if I can trust the Device Manager), but the update software didn't recognise/find my streamer. Tried again and again -- without success. I then tried the same with our rather ancient Samsung laptop -- I did exactly the same, but this time the update went through without any problem. No clue why a new Dell could deliver what they old Samsung did... Just relieved that I didn't need to bother Phil...

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by Finkfan

Interesting. I’ll try again this evening. It’s probably a laptop issue, it’s getting tired of I’m honest. It currently takes about 10 mins to become of any use after waking up from hibernation! 

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by David Hendon

I read in a much earlier post a day or two back that the USB drivers come in two flavours. Generic Windows and Windows 7, 8 and 10 version. The poster had to delete the generic Windows driver he had installed which didn't work and install the later one, which then did work. No doubt this post can be found if someone wants to look for it.

best

David

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by Timo
David Hendon posted:

I read in a much earlier post a day or two back that the USB drivers come in two flavours. Generic Windows and Windows 7, 8 and 10 version. The poster had to delete the generic Windows driver he had installed which didn't work and install the later one, which then did work. No doubt this post can be found if someone wants to look for it.

best

David

I used the same driver with both the Dell and Samsung laptops -- so that "variable" is stable and can't explain why the Dell did not work...

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by Harry

I have a super duper fast and up-to-date laptop on Win10 that won't work no matter what drivers I try to install on it. I also have a wheezing, clunky old laptop on Win7 that will get Com3 and run the update without a hitch. Unfortunately, the link posted further up the thread didn't help. But I do appreciate people trying to help. Maybe Naim can weigh in?

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by David Hendon
Timo posted:
David Hendon posted:

I read in a much earlier post a day or two back that the USB drivers come in two flavours. Generic Windows and Windows 7, 8 and 10 version. The poster had to delete the generic Windows driver he had installed which didn't work and install the later one, which then did work. No doubt this post can be found if someone wants to look for it.

best

David

I used the same driver with both the Dell and Samsung laptops -- so that "variable" is stable and can't explain why the Dell did not work...

Well it could explain it, if the driver is ok for your "rather ancient" Samsung but not for your newer Dell. But anyway I'm just saying this worked for someone else.

best

David

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by Mike-B

I installed the latest version for Win-10 & now have this & the old generic multi-Win version also installed.    When I connected up the USB cable it connected OK,  no idea which driver its selecting but who cares.    The point is you can load both.    With Win-10 it installs in OS>Programs>DIFX

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by Anto68
marcobb posted:

According to the upgrade process, there mention the PC need connect to the network use wired, anybody try to use the wireless instead of wired ?

Is it wireless connect to the network also work ?

yes I have updated use a wireless connection otherwise I would have to move the SU near the modem.
everything was simple and it worked.
I did not understand why  need to update with devices connected to the network if the update is installed on the PC

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by David Hendon
Anto68 posted:
marcobb posted:

According to the upgrade process, there mention the PC need connect to the network use wired, anybody try to use the wireless instead of wired ?

Is it wireless connect to the network also work ?

yes I have updated use a wireless connection otherwise I would have to move the SU near the modem.
everything was simple and it worked.
I did not understand why  need to update with devices connected to the network if the update is installed on the PC

It's because some of the update is delivered over the USB connection and some of it is delivered over the ethernet/wifi connection. You need both.

best

David

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by Anto68

Thank’s David

I’m not sure that the update has performed sound benefits, for me it sound great as before  

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by Adam Zielinski
Finkfan posted:
Adam Zielinski posted:

Are you running one of the recent Mac OS? 

Hi Adam

No, I’m running Windows 7 or 8, can’t remember which now, on a Sony viao laptop 

Similar issue happend to us in the Mac world... hence the quesiton. 

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by ChrisR_EPL

My ND5XS seems to have lost a bit of ooomph unless it's turned up a lot more. Anyone else noticed it?

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by Antonio1
ChrisR_EPL posted:

My ND5XS seems to have lost a bit of ooomph unless it's turned up a lot more. Anyone else noticed it?

Absolutely, couldn't believe my ears (just ike a psu).

Always a good sign, in fact voices and details are more real and highs more airy and less shrilling, no mid bass omph.

When turned up a whole new musical experience. 

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by Donkeyhaute

Hmm. I'm not convinced by the DSP update. On my system there's now a bass bloom and the classically 'Naim' midrange hump has gone. I watched a film through it last night and it was noticeably harder to hear the voices due to midrange recess. The bass was like pushing a loudness button.  I hope it's an adjustment period. I'll listen again later at reasonable levels. I imagine it'll sound better through NACA5 than Tellurium Q. This is, in no way, a criticism of our esteemed Beta testers, simply a reaction to how my own system sounds. 

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by Ancipital

Have updated both my mu-so (in my home office) and my NDX - all good so far.

Looks like my continual drops out on Tidal have stopped as i was about to cancel it due to not being able to get through a whole track without it failing