272 on 250DR sounds like crap

Posted by: Dan.S on 05 April 2018

Naim should be ashamed of itself, letting honest-hard-working people like myself audition 500 series level separates.

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by feeling_zen

The sensation will fade and you'll be happy again.

Dealers listen to that stuff all the time but live with modest stuff at home quite happily (ish).

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by thebigfredc

Trying things beyond ones means might not be the best thing to do if you have a compulsive personality.

Otherwise you can always take up another past-time, such as jigsaws or fishing perhaps.

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by Timo

Work harder.  And the 500 series might arrive one day... Or maybe not? 

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by spurrier sucks

I haven't heard the 500 series but I did get to hear 252/SC DR/300 DR this past weekend. It sounded great. Once I got back home and put on some tunes from my lowly 272 system I was very happy and the desire to upgrade from here is nonexistent. I think the 272 us rather good. 

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by Dan.S

552 with 500DR and NDS. On naca5. And a NAS. 

Holly s&*t. It's all I can say.

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by Ardbeg10y

The Naim concept is that you add a power supply. Have you tried a PS on your 272?

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by Christopher_M

272 on 250DR sounds like crap

Just so long as it doesn't sound 'broken'

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by Innocent Bystander

Audition the Statement, then you can console yourself with the knowledge that the 500 series sounds like crap, too.

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by Allan Milne

 

Statement and 500 series are crap too - when I win the lottery I'm buying an orchestra, a rock band, a jazz group and a singer-songwriter  and having them play in my living room ...

 

... might be a bit of a squeeze though

Allan

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by Polarbear
Dan.S posted:

Naim should be ashamed of itself, letting honest-hard-working people like myself audition 500 series level separates.

Its only a hi-fi, don't worry about it!

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by Frank Yang
Ardbeg10y posted:

The Naim concept is that you add a power supply. Have you tried a PS on your 272?

It is a typical British (black) humor . The 272 is good as it should be, only 500 sounds better.

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by Huge
Allan Milne posted:

 

Statement and 500 series are crap too - when I win the lottery I'm buying an orchestra, a rock band, a jazz group and a singer-songwriter  and having them play in my living room ...

 

... might be a bit of a squeeze though

Allan

Simple, when you win the lottery you'll be able to afford to build a big enough music room to accommodate them all!

No problem.

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by Emre

We don’t like the rich!

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by Huge

I don't have a problem with Mr Dane!    

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by Innocent Bystander
Huge posted:
Allan Milne posted:

 

Statement and 500 series are crap too - when I win the lottery I'm buying an orchestra, a rock band, a jazz group and a singer-songwriter  and having them play in my living room ...

 

... might be a bit of a squeeze though

Allan

Simple, when you win the lottery you'll be able to afford to build a big enough music room to accommodate them all!

No problem.

Have to be the Euromillions jackpot then. 

UK National lottery only OK for a decent music room and hifi system. (Hmm, I always did fancy the idea of  concrete horns...,)

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by Innocent Bystander
Emre posted:

We don’t like the rich!

I think the average person in the street would regard most owners of Naim systems and discussing cables costing £100s/m as rich...

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by Frank Yang
Emre posted:

We don’t like the rich!

I thought we all were rich!

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by Emre

It is never ending discussion, a family in Somalia could consider average person in the street ( A European street ) very rich

But let me correct, we don’t like “ Statement” rich.... 

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by Ardbeg10y
Frank Yang posted:
Ardbeg10y posted:

The Naim concept is that you add a power supply. Have you tried a PS on your 272?

It is a typical British (black) humor . The 272 is good as it should be, only 500 sounds better.

I'm afraid it is humour.

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by HiFiman
Frank Yang posted:
Ardbeg10y posted:

The Naim concept is that you add a power supply. Have you tried a PS on your 272?

It is a typical British (black) humor . The 272 is good as it should be, only 500 sounds better.

The 272 is as good as the Naim accountants allow it to be.

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by Innocent Bystander
Emre posted:

It is never ending discussion, a family in Somalia could consider average person in the street ( A European street ) very rich

But let me correct, we don’t like “ Statement” rich.... 

It is all relative.

Is someone rich if they save for 10 years to buy a Statement system but have no holidays, walk or cycle and not have a car, and have no meals out or any other luxuries at all, live in a cheap par of the country in a modest house and play only their already accumulated recording collection? 

Or is someone rich who buys a new car (not a very fancy one) every 2 years, has a nice holiday staying in reasonably modest 4-star hotels every year, eats out a regularly and otherwise buys a lot of convenience foods, lives in an expensive part of the country in a modest house, but struggles to afford to buy basic Naim kit?

The latter may earn more than the former...

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by Massimo Bertola
feeling_zen posted:

Dealers listen to that stuff all the time but live with modest stuff at home quite happily (ish).

True, according to my experience. And this should definitely tell something very urgent to all of us.

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by Massimo Bertola
Dan.S posted:

Holly s&*t. It's all I can say.

No, it's not all. You could also tell us if any speakers were used.

M.

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by Innocent Bystander
Max_B posted:
feeling_zen posted:

Dealers listen to that stuff all the time but live with modest stuff at home quite happily (ish).

True, according to my experience. And this should definitely tell something very urgent to all of us.

One thing it tells us that if you spend all day at work listening to music you might want to do something else when you get home...

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by Clive B
Innocent Bystander posted:

Audition the Statement, then you can console yourself with the knowledge that the 500 series sounds like crap, too.

Yes, but it would also appear to be a real bargain and given that it is such a bargain I'm sure you could live with the crap sound.