Innuos and iPeng

I thought ipeng was for controlling squeezebox players. I use to use it a long time ago when I bought apple products and had squeezeboxes. It was a good app for those can't say what it can confirm innous you have to buy a plugin for the app to.make it work and you need to buy ipeng too the free ones too limited. I would look at Roon nucleus and Roon if you looking to move away from Naim. It's the best library software out there and Tidal inbuilt so it integrates fully with you own stuff. Innuous can run Roon as well but it's not that specced hardware to do the other DSP stuff Roon can do.

Other option would be a sonic transporter as they can run Roon and various other libraries and rip. More expensive than innuous but got more grunt.

I loved iPeng, especially the Party version that prevents guest users from blowing up or jumping the queue.  I would use that version now, if I could figure out how to, with my NDX.

Nick

Hi Timo

After giving up my ND5XS about a year ago for a Chord 2Qute based streaming solution and after a few trials and errors I have recently arrived at an Liv Zen (original Innous)>> 2Qute streamer >> Logitech Media Server using iPeng on my iPhone .  As I said I have only recently started using this app and havent tried to search on Tidal the way you have described but have searched artist and LP title easily.  iPeng does not give you open accesss to Tidal the way the Naim app does and to get the best from Tidal so far I have found I have to open it up and add the music I want to my favourites and then access those via iPeng this might be the way to search for your Beethoven.  

The real beauty of this system is having access to Tidal, Quboz, Spotify, Deezer, Tunein, BBCiplayer, shoutcast and many more streaming services in one app as well as access to all my ripped CD's too. iPeng does not look as slick as the Naim app but so far I'm very happy with it.

I don't have many High Res files and so can't really comment on how those sound but some of the 320 kpbs radio sound as good as or better than I remember the ND5XS sounding but of course that was a year ago.

.I don't know about Hugo v Qutest but against forum judgement I found the 2Qute to be equal to the Hugo maybe the Hugo's battery power give it a very, very slight edge sonically but not enough to warrant the quite marked difference in cost. 

Compared to Roon it isn't nearly as slick and probably doesn't have half the features but it cost a one off £9 where as Roon is 15 times that yearly.  My live Zen came with Logitech Media Server access built in and this sees the Innous as a Squeezebox 'player' as does iPeng.

SimonPeterArnold posted:

I would look at Roon nucleus and Roon if you looking to move away from Naim. It's the best library software out there and Tidal inbuilt so it integrates fully with you own stuff. Innuous can run Roon as well but it's not that specced hardware to do the other DSP stuff Roon can do.

Other option would be a sonic transporter as they can run Roon and various other libraries and rip. More expensive than innuous but got more grunt.

Thanks SimonPeterArnold. Yes, the Tidal integration in Roon, as far as I can tell from reading about it, looks very appealing. I like that recordings "bookmarked" in Tidal appear in the composer's "screen", together with the recordings one owns -- very smart indeed. Although I fear that Tidal's at times rather poor metadata for classical music can cause some problems... 

So I have been thinking about the Roon route -- but I am a bit "intimidated" by bringing in a computer. So many variables, it seems; and very confusing: Gustard, SOTM, Regen, Microrendu etc; and then the power supplies for the additional little boxes. Most of the things I read on Computeraudiophile I don't fully understand, I have to admit. Is there a way, at a reasonable price point, to avoid a "spaghetti" system with a simple Intel NUC? At first I thought Innuos could be great for Roon, but then, as you pointed out as well, the "computer spec" isn't that great -- not meeting Roon's recommendations...

NickSeattle posted:

I loved iPeng, especially the Party version that prevents guest users from blowing up or jumping the queue.  I would use that version now, if I could figure out how to, with my NDX.

Nick

Thanks NickSeattle. From my Forum search before posting about iPeng, I recall you mentioning the Party version in an older thread. Or am I mixing up names? In your experience, how does iPeng compare to the Naim app? Anything iPeng doesn't do? Did you try Tidal and/or Quboz in iPeng? Cheers!

Bob the Builder posted:

Hi Timo

After giving up my ND5XS about a year ago for a Chord 2Qute based streaming solution and after a few trials and errors I have recently arrived at an Liv Zen (original Innous)>> 2Qute streamer >> Logitech Media Server using iPeng on my iPhone .  As I said I have only recently started using this app and havent tried to search on Tidal the way you have described but have searched artist and LP title easily.  iPeng does not give you open accesss to Tidal the way the Naim app does and to get the best from Tidal so far I have found I have to open it up and add the music I want to my favourites and then access those via iPeng this might be the way to search for your Beethoven.  

The real beauty of this system is having access to Tidal, Quboz, Spotify, Deezer, Tunein, BBCiplayer, shoutcast and many more streaming services in one app as well as access to all my ripped CD's too. iPeng does not look as slick as the Naim app but so far I'm very happy with it.

I don't have many High Res files and so can't really comment on how those sound but some of the 320 kpbs radio sound as good as or better than I remember the ND5XS sounding but of course that was a year ago.

.I don't know about Hugo v Qutest but against forum judgement I found the 2Qute to be equal to the Hugo maybe the Hugo's battery power give it a very, very slight edge sonically but not enough to warrant the quite marked difference in cost. 

 

 

Thanks for your input Bob the Builder. I have tried to follow your streaming "journey" since selling your ND5XS. Have you sold the SOTM as well? I missed that one... Why didn't it work for you? SOTM receives a lot of praise in the press, it seems. Also, I believe to recall that your "DIY" experiment at the beginning wasn't meeting your expectations. It's great to learn that you are happy with your Innuos. And I agree with you about the appeal of having the additional streaming services. My concern about the ND5XS is that new developments in the exciting streaming world won't be accessible... 

You could leave the ripping duties to you iMac with an external cd drive an just have a Roon nuleous to run Roon and Feed you DAC via usb. The nucleus is built with being next to your hifi kit as simple one box solution and does not add any additional noise to the stream. No setup required just plug it in and. Setup your library. It's not cheap mind but from the users that have one they love it.

Timo posted:

NickSeattle posted:

I loved iPeng, especially the Party version that prevents guest users from blowing up or jumping the queue.  I would use that version now, if I could figure out how to, with my NDX.

Nick

Thanks NickSeattle. From my Forum search before posting about iPeng, I recall you mentioning the Party version in an older thread. Or am I mixing up names? In your experience, how does iPeng compare to the Naim app? Anything iPeng doesn't do? Did you try Tidal and/or Quboz in iPeng? Cheers!

Hi, Timo.

I never had any issues with iPeng, LMS, and Sqeezebox Touch, and continued to use them alongside the later-arriving NDX-FM, finding their performance to be equally satisfying through the Naim DAC.  

Because I primarily listen to FM, and to reduce the complexity and redundancy, I decommissioned the SBT (and Sonos), leaving for now a Mac Mini running Audirvana+ as my backup system vs NAS MinimServer and NDX.

iPeng was the best control app I found for LMS; but for my purposes, the Naim app covers more functions, like FM and iRadio, CD555, and NAC volume control and source switching.  The only thing I miss about iPeng is Party.  

Nick

 i have experimented recently with several apps for my SoTM SMS 200. I dont like iPeng personally, much prefer mconnect as it allows to integrate Tidal including the "my music" favorites seamlessly. I use it with minimserver which is also available on the Innuos.

NickSeattle posted:

I loved iPeng, especially the Party version that prevents guest users from blowing up or jumping the queue.  I would use that version now, if I could figure out how to, with my NDX.

Nick ... you should be able to install a UPnP Bridge on LMS which will allow iPeng to control your NDX (if you want to).

Eloise posted:

NickSeattle posted:

I loved iPeng, especially the Party version that prevents guest users from blowing up or jumping the queue.  I would use that version now, if I could figure out how to, with my NDX.

Nick ... you should be able to install a UPnP Bridge on LMS which will allow iPeng to control your NDX (if you want to).

Thanks, Eloise.  I will look into it!

I seem to recall pointing LMS and MinimServer to the same files caused conflicts, or maybe that was from running both servers on the same machine — I forget the details, or if there was a solution.  Worth another look, though.

Nick