Statement interconnects

and no steering wheel!

wasn't this installed by a dealer???

I may be wrong but have a feeling that, for statement, Naim deliver and install themselves. I recall Jason Gould telling me about a statement installation he’d done recently.

That's a point shell out 150+K on rare earth kit .......... I would expect the 'Milk Tray Man' service ........... whoops that sounds bad ..... anyway you get the drift.....

I really feel there is little value in commenting on issues one has no primary exposure to, except when opinion is asked for. In this topic and all the others on this forum. It makes it a poorer place.

best, JN

It’s unbelievable that a statement amp was not installed by a dealer. The dealer really would have delayed installation until he got the superlumina cables from Naim and the power lines 

Dear Analoguemusic - with all due respect, you are completely wrong in what you are posting. Please don’t do that. Many thanks!

Gandalf_fi posted:

J Novak posted:

I am not sure that specific Cisco is the only killer switch to be honest, I am therefore going with an equivalent Hewlett Packard one, built around the same industrial principles.

Regarding the M12, my curiosity is driving the effort, so hopefully we will all come out of this a bit better informed.

Best, JN

I use HP as well (external linear Power supply), tried that old Cisco but it was very clear that quite basic HP was better by clear marigin. I know 3 persons who have been trying both & uses HP nowadays.

Guys, as I have said many times, this is nothing to with switch being from vendor x or y, the Cisco Catalyst switches, of which the 2960 is a relatively cheap and basic example, was I found, in various tests I performed many months back, sounded more agreeable when connected to a Naim streamer... and I shared this on the forum sometime back.

This is not about switch functionality, nor is it specific about being Cisco, and certainly not PSU related, as I get the same effect using severeal power sources including PoE, external DC  power source and internal power source.

So by all means use a quality switch... but as far as SQ you should compare with a 2960 or 3560 if you are inspired about the sound improvements that many, but certainly not all have found on this forum.

To me the SQ improvement is down to the PHY layer design of the switch and its clock regulation as well as internal physical interface layout and other considerations.

i suspect a switch supporting PTP will also sound beneficial, but these are probably going to be pricey.

kevin J Carden posted:

Thanks Tony. I’d forgotten that you also had Mogami sets. I guess you’d need 3 pairs of DIN/XLR’s, so £10k’s worth of SL ?!!!

I have actually done a bit of soldering in the dim and distant, but usually ‘heavier guage’ stuff like banana plugs on speaker cable. I’m guessing that wiring these plugs might be a bit finicky, but I guess it’s often just a matter of having the right equipment. Think I’ll buy that equipment and give it a go. Am I right in recalling that either Huge or yourself gave quite precise details of how to make the connections? Do you recall the name of the thread?

Cheers, Kevin

Hi Kevin,  sorry I didn't respond to your posting, but I see you found the old thread. Soldering the XLRs is very straightforward, the PREH DINs are quite fiddly but easy enough once you get the hang of them.

French Rooster posted:

you should ask “Dark Bear” member, he has the statement pre and uses chord music i am quite sure to remember. 

Darke Bear uses Naim Super Lumina, not Chord Music.

I use all SL cables where available in the 'full-loom' Active system.

I'm very happy with what they do in the context of my all-Naim system in terms of overall balance of presentation of musical qualities from the system. With a different system-mix of components then from previous experience it may be possible to find other great HiFi cables to optimise the presentation that best pleases you in what you want, but in my case I think Naim have done that job for me.

Generally I find different cables do different things in terms of how they present the frequency response, detail-retrieval and timing. It seems getting one aspect better can make another worse - and you need to account for your own system's sonic signature. It adds up to a lot of home-demos over extended periods of time to get it right, as you can be 'wowed' by one aspect being obviously great only to realise over time you are playing less music, because something else you did not initially consciously register was not being done as well. For example, great bass weight can make timing suck and apparent good up-front detail can hide a lack of low-level spatial detail being the common problems I hear in components.

All in all with my finite life I tend these days to make some short-cuts in my testing and settle on what delivers the smile on my face and leaves me over time content - the SL cables have done this for me. Always ready to have more if I hear it demonstrated and within my financial outlay capacities, so not saying SL is 'the best', but meets my present requirements beautifully.

DB.

tonym posted:

French Rooster posted:

you should ask “Dark Bear” member, he has the statement pre and uses chord music i am quite sure to remember. 

Darke Bear uses Naim Super Lumina, not Chord Music.

you are right, i was not sure but now Dark Bear just confirmed he uses superlumina.    Is there someone on the forum who uses chord music with statement ?  maybe only some members with nap552/500.....

Superlumina in an active system gets seriously expensive. 

Darke Bear posted:

 ....It seems getting one aspect better can make another worse ....you can be 'wowed' by one aspect being obviously great only to realise over time you are playing less music, because something else you did not initially consciously register was not being done as well...

This is a real nugget of wisdom DB and perfectly explains why even a relatively long audition of a component at a dealers or even at home can sometimes still lead us onto the wrong path. It can for sure be a tricky business getting to the right long term result.

tonym posted:

kevin J Carden posted:

Thanks Tony. I’d forgotten that you also had Mogami sets. I guess you’d need 3 pairs of DIN/XLR’s, so £10k’s worth of SL ?!!!

I have actually done a bit of soldering in the dim and distant, but usually ‘heavier guage’ stuff like banana plugs on speaker cable. I’m guessing that wiring these plugs might be a bit finicky, but I guess it’s often just a matter of having the right equipment. Think I’ll buy that equipment and give it a go. Am I right in recalling that either Huge or yourself gave quite precise details of how to make the connections? Do you recall the name of the thread?

Cheers, Kevin

Hi Kevin,  sorry I didn't respond to your posting, but I see you found the old thread. Soldering the XLRs is very straightforward, the PREH DINs are quite fiddly but easy enough once you get the hang of them.

Thanks Tony. I haven’t had time to follow up with this yet, but hopefully may get around to it soon. I have to say that I’m sure I’ll always really hanker after SL, but in the meantime some Mogami might be a step up. It’s a low cost, if slightly hassly punt