Super Lumina.

All cables are more or less about being as little interfering as possible.

I tend to look at it from the following perspective:

Listening to a recorded music is like watching the world via a closed window. The more revealing the system, the more neutral the cables, the cleaner the window is.  Being in a concert or playing music on stage is like being outdoors

 spending 2000 gbp on a superlumina interconnect for a cd5 isn’t a good usage of money

you could buy a naim dac or  v1 or a chord Hugo for that kind of money and still have cash left for a Vertere DFI interconnect.

superlumina speaker cables also cost 2000 gbp but again there are other places to spend that kind of money

maybe on a rega RP8? Or used LP12

My experience reflects what STRAT is saying about entry level and more modest systems putting some highly elevated and hyped brands on this forum to shame at this years Axpona show. I heard $21,000.00 dollar speakers that the entry level Elacs totally embarrassed!!! How many members wouldn't  own Elacs because they retail for so little?  It's so silly to base opinions strictly on price alone.

All I have to add is that to the members who are dismissing the CD5Si and the Project TT as inadequate, because of their retail price probably have never really listened to them, or they don't deserve a HiLine IC because of their retail price, I would guess have never given them a serious audition. I would liken the comparison of the 5Si to the CDS3, the same as trying to justify the use of SL cables with lesser amps than the Statement amps for which SL were specifically produced for.

The lesser amps just don't have the resolving (thanks Analog) abilities of the Statement amps to justify their purchase in systems up to and including 300 series level, let alone 250 based systems. The massive differences to the standard or "adequate" free cables just don't exist in systems at this level, regardless of what some here say or want to believe to try and convince themselves that their purchase was worth it. More placebo than any real sonic advantage to the standard cables at this level.

fatcat posted:

The Strat (Fender) posted:

As is often the case Analogue indulges in hyperbole.  A cable change will refine (or otherwise) your system, it won’t “ruthlessly expose” anything.   ,

 

To be fair, Analogue has spent a large amount of time, effort and money seeking out interconnects that don’t ruthlessly expose the inadequacies of his Chord DaCs

No. Nice try though..... we seem to have a very different view of the chord Mojo... I listen to mine 2 hours at least a day and never get bored of it.... unlike you finds it only lasts for one song... no accounting for ears though right? Or maybe you had a defective mojo. 

i tried some chord interconnects that sounded quite nice and are engaging to be fair. They would be the ones I use until I  purchased entry level DFI Vertere..... wonderful ...... now that is something else altogether.....

Badlands I own a Project TT myself, and it really isn't upto the job for a 282/250 system.

I used to own a DAC V1 too, that would be an NDX level source, but of course NDX/XPSDR is really what I would use for a 282 preamp.

Turntables : More like Lp12 or Rp8 for this level of amplifier.

I run a CD5si and a Hi-Line into a Nait 5si with Neat motive SX2 speakers. I have once or twice reverted back to the grey/lavender cable. I can hear a difference between the two. The Hi-Line is better in that the music sounds fuller, wider and overall a more relaxed presentation with ease of flow. Is it worth the expense rather than putting the money to a better source in the first place? probably not but it is still better to my ears over the stock lead with my entry gear. When I do have the funds for a better source the Hi-Line will already be in place anyway so I don't really see it being as a waste of money and either way, it all depends on one's priorities and expectations in the first place I guess.

You could say the same thing about the Super Lumina cables with classic kit rather than using them with the 500 series or Statement kit. Horses for courses methinks.

Of course it could all come down to one's ear drums let alone the kit!

P.S. I got another performance boost when I swapped my stock power leads for the PowerLine Lite cables, very similar from the lavender to Hi-line I found but obviously much better value for money.

Stephen, I agree entirely. The point is was making, though perhaps not very well, is that cables are a good way to get the best out of what you have got. Optimising a CD5si and Nait5si, which is a nicely balanced setup, is a perfectly sensible thing to do, and of course you will hear a difference. 

But if you had the same CD player but with a 282 Hicap and 250, and had Super Lumina money to spend on the system, you’d get far more of an improvement from improving the CD player than from getting new wires. 

This has nothing to do with how little systems can be better than big ones. Of course they can. The only point I’m making is that the OP’s money would be better spent on balancing the black boxes. Once it’s balanced, the SL wires would make complete sense. 

Hi Nigel, 

I completely concur with you too in that it seems a bit odd that the OP is looking at upping their interconnect cable for their system especially given the fact how much a Super Lumina one costs in the first place, more than the source itself

Surely a CDX2 with XPS2 or NDX would be much more appropriate here in this regard.

tyendra posted:

 

Does the extra expense with the Super Lumina line warrant the outlay?

PMC5/26.  -   Nap250DR  -  NAC282  -  HiCap  -  Cd5si  -  Project Tube Box  -   Pro-ject Experience Turntable.

This is a classic issue.

Many people believe if speakers and amps are on a certain level/expensive, they need to pay little attention to source, which in this case would be just fine on entry level amplication such as Nait 5i and perhaps a few others.

Buying high priced, high profit cables for such setup would be silly IMO, the question even so.

Thank you all for the help and feedback you have given me. I haven't possession of my new HIFI equipment, I have paid for it and I'm waiting for delivery. I will be using the standard NACA5 speaker cable to begin with. I was just wondering if there was any benefit of purchasing the Super Lumina some time in the future. I have gone for the CD5Si as I didn't want to spend to much on a CD player as I intend to buy a Unity Core and one of the new streamers that are due out very soon. Saying that the Cd5si sounded amazing in the demo room, but of course I haven't heard it in a direct shoot out with the CDX2 which is being discontinued shortly. I will be using the turntable mainly with my old 60s and 70s reggae collection which is all mono and earthy, without to much refinement and detail. Here is a review of it. Any further feedback will warmly welcomed. 

The Pro-Ject 2Xperience SB is a turntable with great musicality, aiming for a full-bodied, luscious timbre that will suit many listeners down to the ground

https://www.whathifi.com/pro-j...2xperience-sb/review

If only you’d given the full information in your initial post! 

I'm very sorry, I've been away for a few days and didn't see how the thread was developing. Had I, I would have given you all a lot more feed back.