cisco 2960 vs netgear gs105/ hdplex
Posted by: French Rooster on 24 April 2018
i find that my system has too much bass and is a bit fat and heavy since several weeks. Perhaps i became more sensitive because nothing really changed in my system. I was trying different speakers positions and also turn on the screws on my woofers and tweeters.
It was a bit better, but not enough.
Today, i decided to connect again my netgear gs105 switch, with hdplex linear ps: the magic returned ! the sound is less heavy now, the bass is better integrated. All is more well balanced and natural. Prat , dynamics, involvement : the same.
I will try again the cisco again, but i think that it exaggerated some frequencies and the sound is too heavy also in my system.
I will report back but for now i am happy to not have sold the netgear . My hdplex can power 2 items, so it is powering the netgear now.
I had too much bass after upgrading my 272 to version 4.6. A change of mains cable did the trick for me.
Finkfan posted:I had too much bass after upgrading my 272 to version 4.6. A change of mains cable did the trick for me.
i updated for 4.6 in the last days, the problem for me was before.
I think of to things at first,.....maybe more later.You know that I have write about different installation-advice earlier....look at older posts. But first....
◾ How old are your switch,we have done a recapp-service on two Cisco's who was from 2007 and 2008.After the recapp it was clearly better. It's the SMPS you recapp.
◾ This is a little difficult for me to explain in english,but I try ????. At the end of the power-cable who shall go in to the Cisco,...if you hold that end with the "roof" on the contact end pointing up against the roof in your room.
If you when holding the contact so....with the roof pointing to the room-roof in front of you and then looking in to the three holes....you shall have it like this.
◾The right hole: Live.
◾The left hole: Neutral.
◾The upper hole: Earth.
Maybe you already know this,or had it this way,but if not.....it's a clear different to the better. All your hifi-products you shall have in the same way.
You can buy a cheap instrument so you can control this,that you have the Live on the right side in the contact-end. If you already know about this,you just lost one minute of reading this.
/Peder????
Peder posted:I think of to things at first,.....maybe more later.You know that I have write about different installation-advice earlier....look at older posts. But first....
◾ How old are your switch,we have done a recapp-service on two Cisco's who was from 2007 and 2008.After the recapp it was clearly better. It's the SMPS you recapp.
◾ This is a little difficult for me to explain in english,but I try ????. At the end of the power-cable who shall go in to the Cisco,...if you hold that end with the "roof" on the contact end pointing up against the roof in your room.
If you when holding the contact so....with the roof pointing to the room-roof in front of you and then looking in to the three holes....you shall have it like this.
◾The right hole: Live.
◾The left hole: Neutral.
◾The upper hole: Earth.
Maybe you already know this,or had it this way,but if not.....it's a clear different to the better. All your hifi-products you shall have in the same way.
You can buy a cheap instrument so you can control this,that you have the Live on the right side in the contact-end. If you already know about this,you just lost one minute of reading this.
/Peder????
there was nothing really wrong with the cisco, just too much body and bass in my small room ( 18m2). The cisco emphasized a bit the bass , i am not the only one to find this. If i had different speakers or bigger room, or a lean sound, it would be a good thing. But today i prefer a softer sound, with less energy. My nap 300 dr has enough energy on my easy load speakers. I just find this addition of bass and energy given by the cisco too much for my system.
The same with the 4.6 update : for some it gives too much bass in their system and room, and they prefer the 4.4. For other the addition of this bass by the update is welcome.
I was not saying that the netgear / hdplex is better vs the cisco 2960, just better sounding in my system. But i will retry the cisco in a couple of days.
You might want to check your speaker set up too. I recently put some simple self cut Herbie’s grungebuster discs under my speaker spike disc cups, and it really made a difference to the quality of the bass. My speakers are up against the wall.
But this is also really representative of the effects of dealing with your network. It’s subtle changes, but they all add up. And I think different, not better, is the operative word. And dealing with the networking side of things is pennies on the dollar compared to the main hifi hardware (well unless you sink down the audiophile ethernet cable hole).
Rather than pfafing around by compromising the mechanical interface of the speakers (Grungebusters) or by adding noise and jitter to the network (via the Netgear switch) to degrade the bass response, why not actually sort out the problem with your room?
The elevated bass level is most likely due to acoustic resonances in the room. The best thing you can do for excess bass is to add bass traps as they'll not only improve the bass level they'll also improve the reverberation time at low frequency (i.e. the RT60 figure).
charlesphoto posted:You might want to check your speaker set up too. I recently put some simple self cut Herbie’s grungebuster discs under my speaker spike disc cups, and it really made a difference to the quality of the bass. My speakers are up against the wall.
But this is also really representative of the effects of dealing with your network. It’s subtle changes, but they all add up. And I think different, not better, is the operative word. And dealing with the networking side of things is pennies on the dollar compared to the main hifi hardware (well unless you sink down the audiophile ethernet cable hole).
i could’t suspect that the cisco was the link to change in my speakers. I checked speakers positions, burndys cables, tried some bass traps....I had already finite elemente cerabases under the speakers with great effect.
I remembered myself that the netgear was lighter sounding vs the cisco. I put the netgear again, powered by a high quality linear ps, and the sound is more natural now, less forceful and better balanced. The bass is not overwhelming as before.
Huge posted:Rather than pfafing around by compromising the mechanical interface of the speakers (Grungebusters) or by adding noise and jitter to the network (via the Netgear switch) to degrade the bass response, why not actually sort out the problem with your room?
The elevated bass level is most likely due to acoustic resonances in the room. The best thing you can do for excess bass is to add bass traps as they'll not only improve the bass level they'll also improve the reverberation time at low frequency (i.e. the RT60 figure).
the netgear powered by my high quality linear ps is less noisy i think vs the cisco. I hear a bit more details now and the notes are a bit longer too. The cisco is powered by an stmps.
The cisco is a bit forceful i think and exagerates the bass. For my system and room it is a bit too much.
For room treatment, i had tried different things, as bass traps. It helped a bit. But, as my dealer said, my speakers are at the limit of the room capacity. A bit too big speakers....2X17 cm woofers powered by a nap 300 dr , in a 1730 years old building....
Perhaps the best thing would be to have standmounts speakers, but for now i don’t want to invest.