Upgrade System - Uniti/Nap 250/Vertere Pulse X-Mini/Wilson Audio Sabrina

Have been running the 272 for a week now and am very happy with the step forward, the system now sounds like the ones you hear in the audio store and think wow! The control, clarity and detail are massively improved. NAP 300 or 555PS next ...?! 

Yeti - you lost me a little with the cable talk, i'm running 3m lengths.  A5 was with my previous speakers/setup, I would be interested to compare on the Wilsons

SDEEGS,

Great news!  Keep the 250DR, as it's a super amplifier.  If it were me, I'd put the external power supply on the 272, then be prepared to be amazed at how good music sounds.  The 300DR is a truly great amplifier but to me the external power supply on the 272 has a greater impact than 250DR to 300DR.

In the meantime, do enjoy what you already have!

Best regards, FT

Back again gents, have been looking at the power supplies, either the 555 PS or I can pick up an XPS DR for around 1/3 of the price. In terms of value the XPS makes a lot more sense but... will I regret it later?! Is the difference really that huge? It’s not possible to compare here in the UAE hence my indecisiveness! 

Personally I would go for the XPS DR, unless you are planning to change the 272 down the road (in which case another discussion is required). It keeps things "within the family", better synergy in the context of your system.

Deegs posted:

Back again gents, have been looking at the power supplies, either the 555 PS or I can pick up an XPS DR for around 1/3 of the price. In terms of value the XPS makes a lot more sense but... will I regret it later?! Is the difference really that huge? It’s not possible to compare here in the UAE hence my indecisiveness! 

In the context of your system, and especially given the speakers, the 555PSDR is the one to be looking at. The 555 is much, much better and will raise the 272 to a level you didn’t think possible. It ensures that the source and preamp are maximised, which will be particularly relevant should you move to a 300. I do not agree that the XPS provides better synergy, based on my experience of long term ownership of both of the power supplies. 

Hungryhalibut posted:

Deegs posted:

Back again gents, have been looking at the power supplies, either the 555 PS or I can pick up an XPS DR for around 1/3 of the price. In terms of value the XPS makes a lot more sense but... will I regret it later?! Is the difference really that huge? It’s not possible to compare here in the UAE hence my indecisiveness! 

In the context of your system, and especially given the speakers, the 555PSDR is the one to be looking at. The 555 is much, much better and will raise the 272 to a level you didn’t think possible. It ensures that the source and preamp are maximised, which will be particularly relevant should you move to a 300. I do not agree that the XPS provides better synergy, based on my experience of long term ownership of both of the power supplies. 

ok it looks like i'm going to have to bite the bullet and go for the 555 or i'll be forever wondering what i could've had! i've found a nice 2009 for around 2600GBP or 2017 555 DS for 5000 GBP, is the later model really that much better? 

The DR is much better. It’s worth the extra.

Sdeegs, dull piano... how much have you experimented with position of the speakers? Moving them out from back wall might do big changes to the presentation. Also make sure the feet are absolutly wobbel free. 

Regarding non dr or dr, what is the service status of the non dr? If not serviced that cost should be factored in.

Go for the 555DR. It is quite incredible what it does for the 272. For an extra £2400 over the non DR it is well worth it when you consider how much you’ll save in not having to spend an additional £4K+ getting it DRd in a few months time! And you will want to do that, believe me....

Hungryhalibut posted:

The DR is much better. It’s worth the extra.

....thought it might be ! the wife now thinks i'm out of control

Joppe posted:

Sdeegs, dull piano... how much have you experimented with position of the speakers? Moving them out from back wall might do big changes to the presentation. Also make sure the feet are absolutly wobbel free. 

Regarding non dr or dr, what is the service status of the non dr? If not serviced that cost should be factored in.

The dull piano was more related to the Uniti i had as the source, the recent purchase of the NAC 272 has completely resolved that issue.. 

Yes once thats factored in it makes sense to go for the newer unit, for 5K it better blow me away!

SDeegs posted:

Hungryhalibut posted:

The DR is much better. It’s worth the extra.

....thought it might be ! the wife now thinks i'm out of control

Maybe you should get the 300 at the same time, then it’s all out of the way in one go. 

Don’t forget the SL cables.....

I personally woul not upgrade your 250 until you get a power supply for the 272. I run the 250DR with the larger Wilson Yvette’s and I don’t feel like it’s missing much when compared to a 300. 

If you’re happy with 272 then that is great! But I found that the linn streamers were a step up. Give them a demo if you can. If not I would hold out for the new naim streamers coming out. 

I went for a 2016 XPS DR, it came from a dealer at a very good price and looked to be the best value. The improvement is huge, so much more depth to the music, couldn't be happier with the result!