Mr Sells statements and the Nova.
Posted by: fred47 on 09 May 2018
I wonder if Mr Sells at Naim did design the Nova noticing his earlieer statements he made in a connection magazine interview.
"SS: I think it’s the musicality. It’s something where you drift off into the performance. You listen to some products and you get that precise imaging and lots of detail, and that can be quite enticing. But I think for the long-term appeal of a component it needs to convey the emotion. That’s the main thing we listen for.
SS: Pace, rhythm and timing – if you can sit down, press play and you don’t feel the need to skip, then that’s just fantastic. That’s the difference between a really good hi-fi and the others.
Seems odd to me because one thing the Nova has in a far lesser degree is Pratt. and musicality.
I’m sorry round schepherical objects. I heard a Nova the other week and on the contrary I never stopped tapping my foot.
Fred - you seem to have a few concerns with your Nova (based on another thread you started on the SQ changing during playback).
It might be worth getting your Nova checked out against another one at your dealer just to confirm all is well with yours ?
James
James - a far more constructive response than mine.
Given the cost of the Nova, please take some responsibility for buying it.
Honestly, if the old XS stuff was more enjoyable, just get it back if you can. Certainly, as full separates, it was more upgradeable than a Nova which can only feed an optional power amp.
Maybe your dealer will take the Nova back as buyers remorse.
Remember, many people have downsized on this forum from big multi box systems and claimed no loss in enjoyment, but if that was universally true, there'd not be a single analogue NAC sold anymore and that is clearly not the case. Also, note the smugness of years old posts by those who downgraded and proclaimed to have seen the light over a big stack of evil black boxes only to slowly crawl back to multi box systems by adding one bix at a time to be damn well near where they started.
Separates groove for a reason.
I run two streaming systems. Nova into PMC 25.23s and NDX into 82/Supercap/2*135 into B&W 804S.
For me the Nova is very enjoyable musically, it's my upstairs system and I feel no lack of musical engagement when I spend the evening upstairs. The main system downstairs is better in many ways, more pace, more musical separation of themes, more and better controlled bass, but I don't feel in any way that the Nova system doesn't grab me. I was one of the lucky ones whose 2.6 upgrade went right first time, and I have spent many happy evenings upstairs in the last 6 months listening to it.
feeling_zen posted:Given the cost of the Nova, please take some responsibility for buying it.
Honestly, if the old XS stuff was more enjoyable, just get it back if you can. Certainly, as full separates, it was more upgradeable than a Nova which can only feed an optional power amp.
Maybe your dealer will take the Nova back as buyers remorse.
Remember, many people have downsized on this forum from big multi box systems and claimed no loss in enjoyment, but if that was universally true, there'd not be a single analogue NAC sold anymore and that is clearly not the case. Also, note the smugness of years old posts by those who downgraded and proclaimed to have seen the light over a big stack of evil black boxes only to slowly crawl back to multi box systems by adding one bix at a time to be damn well near where they started.
Separates groove for a reason.
What makes you think I have any remorse? No way. It took some time to run in, but the NOVA seems to get better everyday and in many respects is far beter than the XS series. But true its lacking some pratt, and I am not the only one. Wether this is due Naim heading towards a more acceptable hifi sound, or a firmware glitch (INTENTIAL OR NOT) remains to be seen.
Anf yes I saw a lot of Atom owners praising the Atom in to Audio heaven. A week later it"s gone.
fred47 posted:feeling_zen posted:Given the cost of the Nova, please take some responsibility for buying it.
Honestly, if the old XS stuff was more enjoyable, just get it back if you can. Certainly, as full separates, it was more upgradeable than a Nova which can only feed an optional power amp.
Maybe your dealer will take the Nova back as buyers remorse.
Remember, many people have downsized on this forum from big multi box systems and claimed no loss in enjoyment, but if that was universally true, there'd not be a single analogue NAC sold anymore and that is clearly not the case. Also, note the smugness of years old posts by those who downgraded and proclaimed to have seen the light over a big stack of evil black boxes only to slowly crawl back to multi box systems by adding one bix at a time to be damn well near where they started.
Separates groove for a reason.
What makes you think I have any remorse? No way. It took some time to run in, but the NOVA seems to get better everyday and in many respects is far beter than the XS series. But true its lacking some pratt, and I am not the only one. Wether this is due Naim heading towards a more acceptable hifi sound, or a firmware glitch (INTENTIAL OR NOT) remains to be seen.
Anf yes I saw a lot of Atom owners praising the Atom in to Audio heaven. A week later it"s gone.
Okay but you have made a specific point to complain about it at length on two threads. You can understand why we are getting mixed signals about this.
which speaker cable are you using? What about mains cable, connection to the wall ?
and which speakers?
feeling_zen posted:fred47 posted:feeling_zen posted:Given the cost of the Nova, please take some responsibility for buying it.
Honestly, if the old XS stuff was more enjoyable, just get it back if you can. Certainly, as full separates, it was more upgradeable than a Nova which can only feed an optional power amp.
Maybe your dealer will take the Nova back as buyers remorse.
Remember, many people have downsized on this forum from big multi box systems and claimed no loss in enjoyment, but if that was universally true, there'd not be a single analogue NAC sold anymore and that is clearly not the case. Also, note the smugness of years old posts by those who downgraded and proclaimed to have seen the light over a big stack of evil black boxes only to slowly crawl back to multi box systems by adding one bix at a time to be damn well near where they started.
Separates groove for a reason.
What makes you think I have any remorse? No way. It took some time to run in, but the NOVA seems to get better everyday and in many respects is far beter than the XS series. But true its lacking some pratt, and I am not the only one. Wether this is due Naim heading towards a more acceptable hifi sound, or a firmware glitch (INTENTIAL OR NOT) remains to be seen.
Anf yes I saw a lot of Atom owners praising the Atom in to Audio heaven. A week later it"s gone.
Okay but you have made a specific point to complain about it at length on two threads. You can understand why we are getting mixed signals about this.
I"M not complaining, just observing.
Hi Fred....... in my experience the amp/speaker/room relationship is hypercritical. I suggest your speaker choice needs a careful look at. I had to borrow a Nait 5i .... not too log ago... and although not 'as good' it still was a product that was music focused and very good .... I feel confident that your Nova .... would be better than the Nait. Also note Mr Sells also uses 2 x sub woofers ...... this would make a profound difference. If your speakers do not synergistically work in harmony with your amp ...... you will end up not listening to your system. You need to speak to your dealer and find out what speaker options you have got ..... and then test chosen speaker at home.... good luck ... keep us all in the loop.
analogmusic posted:which speaker cable are you using? What about mains cable, connection to the wall ?
and which speakers?
Well yes the speakers will be the crucial issue but as far as wires are concerned.......
Out of interest, I take it that the Nova has a fully powered mode (using the main linear supply) where everything is powered and a standby mode where the whole unit powers down, runs on the little switching supply which just runs keeps it in a standby mode (will wake up to button presses / remote commands etc) ? It wasn't that clear when I read the quick start guide.
Well .... wires will have an effect .... for consistency I would defo use std Naim cable...... and find a really good speaker match. Maybe try something in the Totem range......... for starters.....