Turntable and Star

1) No idea, sorry. 

2) I think you mean Input Trim, which adjusts the relative volume for that input. 

3) Lip sync adjustment is for TV or video, to synchronise sound and picture. So you can ignore it. 

Thanks,

2) The volume or the input gain? Because the volume could be selected with the remote, but the audio would obviously be of low quality.

My question is if there is a level that is not ideal, because it would create a distortion.

Thanks

Input trim enables you to set the relative levels of your sources so that they are all the same. If the turntable is quieter than internet radio or CD you can increase the trim, and vice versa. You do not have to do this, it is simply an option. 

Are you saying that you are experiencing a distorted sound?

What is the cartridge on the turntable?

So your going directly into a line level input with a turntable...but not using a phono stage ?

I'm thinking that's why level is low...

Japtimscarlet posted:

So your going directly into a line level input with a turntable...but not using a phono stage ?

I'm thinking that's why level is low...

Max mentions using a NAD PP2e phono pre-amp.

Richard Dane posted:

Are you saying that you are experiencing a distorted sound?

What is the cartridge on the turntable?

No, I did not experience a distorted sound, and I realize - reading back - that I should have explained it better.

With the trim set at zero, the signal was very low, despite the NAD pre amp, so I had to play the audio from the turntable connected to the Analog input at a volume of 50 and the result was not an enjoyable sound.

With the trim at 8, the audio quality is excellent. So I could simply be happy with it, but I was curious to know if the trim is actually a sort of additional pre-amp or gain and, more in general, if selecting such a high trim (nearly the maximum) I might on one hand enjoy the sound but possibly still doing something technically wrong, or not ideal, creating a distortion.

I imagine that if the trim was simply highering the volume, then the effect would have been good even if I simply played the vinyls with a high volume selecting it with my remote (as I initially tried) but it clearly didn’t work.

Thanks

I don't know the details of how the trim works - Naim would be your best source for this info - but I would seriously doubt it would be included if it impaired sound in some way.  I would set it at a level that is comfortable for you for your vinyl front end and which sounds good.

Max V posted:

With the trim at 8, the audio quality is excellent. So I could simply be happy with it, but I was curious to know if the trim is actually a sort of additional pre-amp or gain and, more in general, if selecting such a high trim (nearly the maximum) I might on one hand enjoy the sound but possibly still doing something technically wrong, or not ideal, creating a distortion.

It may have changed with the new Uniti range ... but I was informed by Naim that on the 272 the input trim just increases or decreases the main volume control.

So (for example) setting an input to +10 on the input trim and setting the main volume to 40; is identical to setting input trim to 0 and the main volume to 50.

That's how it seems to work on my 272

..so when he says pre amp he means phono amp?

Sorry I missed that 

Eloise posted:

Max V posted:

With the trim at 8, the audio quality is excellent. So I could simply be happy with it, but I was curious to know if the trim is actually a sort of additional pre-amp or gain and, more in general, if selecting such a high trim (nearly the maximum) I might on one hand enjoy the sound but possibly still doing something technically wrong, or not ideal, creating a distortion.

It may have changed with the new Uniti range ... but I was informed by Naim that on the 272 the input trim just increases or decreases the main volume control.

So (for example) setting an input to +10 on the input trim and setting the main volume to 40; is identical to setting input trim to 0 and the main volume to 50.

Thanks, but it is definitely not what I have experienced.

Volume at 50, sound still not being too loud, and nowhere close to the definition and deepness of volume 25 at trim +8

Japtimscarlet posted:

That's how it seems to work on my 272

..so when he says pre amp he means phono amp?

Sorry I missed that 

Yes, phono amp. Sorry

I also find the analogue input low when using my tt Phono amp. I have to up the volume for it to match digital. I tried the trims but found it did not sound as good so reverted to adjusting the volume. 

Vinyl was there first, it’s digital that’s at the wrong level.

There is another older  thread on here that recommends you should lower the digital source trims and not the analogue one, but you can't do that on the Uniti range for upnp, tidal or spotify only via spdif. 

SimonPeterArnold posted:

There is another older  thread on here that recommends you should lower the digital source trims and not the analogue one, but you can't do that on the Uniti range for upnp, tidal or spotify only via spdif. 

My problem - if you can say so - was not an uneven volume between digital and analog input but a level so low that the audio quality was also affected 

One more thing about volume vs gain.

I have set the maximum volume (general) at 50.

Selecting with the remote, volume at 25 would result in a much softer sound than 25 if the maximum volume is, e.g. 75.

Is the number on the display the % of the maximum set volume. Question for the people using star: what’s the max volume you have selected?