Joy Division Broke my CDS3

Posted by: Ghettoyout on 25 June 2018

I was playing a Joy Division Greatest Hits type CD and after playing the song 24 Hours, the played ceased to work correctly. It will read a cd and know how many tracks there are but if you try to play one nothing much happens. I've tried other CDs (Melt Banana, Smiths etc.) but get the same result. I've powered it off and on but it still will not play a disk.

Does anyone know if there are any other quick fixes I can try? It looks like it may have to go back to the factory for repair otherwise. Can a CDS3 still be repaired/serviced and if so what sort of cost am I looking at?

Thank you for your help.

Best etc.,

Ghetto Yout'.

 

Posted on: 25 June 2018 by Stephen Tate

Maybe worth giving Naim service an E-mail for an accurate confirmation. My CD5si did something similar once, I held down the 'stop'  button continuously while turning off, left it for 5 minutes and then held the 'stop' button continuously pressed again when turning back on for about 10 seconds, did the trick in my situation. Not sure if this will help but maybe worth a try?

Posted on: 25 June 2018 by Ghettoyout

Thanks for the tip - I'll give it a go.

Posted on: 25 June 2018 by Richard Dane

You could try running it in "soak mode" for a bit.  It's handy for seeing whether the mech is throwing up errors. Put in a nice clean scratch free disc that you know plays well. Switch off. Then switch on while pressing and holding play. This puts it in to a special diagnostic mode without error correction. If the mech starts to read the disc then it should keep flashing 0.  However, if it reads yet starts counting, then it's finding errors and may indicate a faulty mech. And if it doesn't read at all... time to contact service.

Otherwise, if it read the TOC Ok but doesn't go any further it may be worth checking the laser sled ribbon - it may be stuck.  Not so easy to see though and maybe worth getting an experienced tech involved as the suspended tray is easily upset and things damaged or made worse.

Posted on: 25 June 2018 by Christopher_M

If all else fails return it to Factory.

Mine had a new mech and service roughly this time last year. So it's easily doable.

Posted on: 25 June 2018 by Ghettoyout

Thank you for your advice Richard - I'll try it this evening.

Christopher - after the new mech and service was there any difference in sound quality? I won't ask how much it cost, but you can say if you like.

Posted on: 25 June 2018 by Christopher_M

Let's just say that when it came back I was experiencing Unknown Pleasures.

The cost was very reasonable. I can't remember exactly what it was but I do remember it was a flat fee for whatever needed doing. I'd email Naim for the cost.

Posted on: 25 June 2018 by thebigfredc

So this is Permanent.

Posted on: 25 June 2018 by thebigfredc

Might be worth having a look at the players Isolation.

Posted on: 25 June 2018 by Ghettoyout

When it played up there was certainly a change of speed, a change of style. I did have regrets though.

The old girl has certainly lost control. I'll have to see if running it in soak mode reveals the secrets of her past.

 

Posted on: 25 June 2018 by Montone

A couple of years ago my CDS3 started to play up. It would not play but track numbers were appearing on the screen. 

Believe it or believe it not this was corrected when I put new batteries in my remote control and the machine has not done this since.

A man from Naim told me that this has happened before.

Posted on: 26 June 2018 by Ghettoyout

Interesting. I have been pressing the buttons on the machine itself as well as the remote control with the same results.

I tried running it in the so-called soak mode last night. The much talked about flashing zero came up (just for one moment, thought I'd found my way.
Destiny unfolded, I watched it slip away) as little else happened. I was hoping for something more, hoping for something else.

Looks like it has to go back to the factory.

I can well imagine large parts of this thread have baffled the prog rockers amongst us.

Posted on: 26 June 2018 by Happy Listener
Montone posted:

A couple of years ago my CDS3 started to play up. It would not play but track numbers were appearing on the screen. 

Believe it or believe it not this was corrected when I put new batteries in my remote control and the machine has not done this since.

A man from Naim told me that this has happened before.

I have a feeling that low battery power can cause remotes to send errant signals, which serve to confuse Naim kit or something like a Sky remote interferes.

I'm sure this arises with my Flash remote every now and again with my CDP and pre. One thing I check on a regular basis is the output formatting on the CDP i.e. DIN-only, as there was a time when it liked to change unprompted to DIN & phono together. 

Posted on: 26 June 2018 by hungryhalibut

Oh dear, it does seem to be suffering from a degree of disorder. Let’s hope a fix takes nearer to twenty four hours, rather than decades. 

Posted on: 26 June 2018 by ChrisSU
hungryhalibut posted:

Oh dear, it does seem to be suffering from a degree of disorder. Let’s hope a fix takes nearer to twenty four hours, rather than decades. 

It's only the remote, Nigel, she's lost control.

Posted on: 26 June 2018 by Ghettoyout

Thank you for that insight HH. I'm a lost soul without my player. Like being in a wilderness. The atmosphere has gone.

And all on a dreaded sunny day.

Posted on: 26 June 2018 by hungryhalibut

Hopefully Keats and Yeats are on your side. 

Posted on: 26 June 2018 by Christopher_M

A CDS3 is a wonderful thing, far more than A Means To An End. What's the latest on how the Disorder will be remedied?

Posted on: 26 June 2018 by Bob_B

CDS3 + 555PS = Bliss !

Posted on: 26 June 2018 by thebigfredc

I love this thread....40 years on and their music is still relevant and revered.

 

Posted on: 26 June 2018 by hungryhalibut

Seeing them live in 79 at Bangor University was probably my best gig, other than The Smiths in 83, at Leicester Poly. Retrospection is a wonderful thing. 

Posted on: 26 June 2018 by Alley Cat
hungryhalibut posted:

Seeing them live in 79 at Bangor University was probably my best gig

Who?

Posted on: 26 June 2018 by Bob the Builder
Alley Cat posted:
hungryhalibut posted:

Seeing them live in 79 at Bangor University was probably my best gig

Who?

The Wurzels

Posted on: 26 June 2018 by thebigfredc
Alley Cat posted:
hungryhalibut posted:

Seeing them live in 79 at Bangor University was probably my best gig

Who?

No, not the Who.

Posted on: 27 June 2018 by Gazza
Bob the Builder posted:
Alley Cat posted:
hungryhalibut posted:

Seeing them live in 79 at Bangor University was probably my best gig

Who?

The Wurzels

Now got that damn Wurzels dong in my head......I’ve, got a brand new combine harvester......thanks for th music????

Posted on: 27 June 2018 by Ghettoyout

The player will be taken to my dealer on Friday to go back to Naim for repair/service. It's a 2003 model with a 555 PS added in 2012. The service cost has been quoted at £355 with £24 shipping but if it needs a new mechanism I'm sure it will be more.

Sadly I've run out of Joy Division lyrics for the moment. Sorry about that. They were one of the finest bands we have seen though. In the mean time it'll just have to be the radio, live transmission.