Would Power-Lines be pointless?

Michael_B. posted:

I sometimes wonder whether the improvement people hear after all this work is due less to having a dedicated supply than to having simply improved the earthing and conductors with new components in an otherwise old installation.

Skip posted:

I actually hear more difference with the Powerlines on my dedicated circuit than I do on the main wiring.

Bob the Builder posted:

Spend  the money somewhere else on the system. I had two (PLs) at one point and at first thought they made a difference but when I took them out I didn’t notice any change at all. 

Good objective comments above, though probably only confuses the issue for Meerkat. Add to that some folks may tend to rationalize money spent on either PLs or dedicated mains to justify the expense. Tough to decide. The logical approach for me would be to try PLs (or other cables) before dedicated mains. Power cables are interchangeable and re-sellable. No return or cost recovery with dedicated mains.

joerand posted:

Power cables are interchangeable and re-sellable. No return or cost recovery with dedicated mains.

Yes - you can't really demo it before committing but given the money spent on black boxes, supports and cables, it seems sensible (well to me anyway) to get the mains sorted at relatively low cost.

James

Is german Strombank one of the best and ultimate solution to have clean power?    If i had funds illimited,  i would be tempted by this strombank. ( 30k).

Bob the Builder posted:

Yes.

Spend  the money somewhere else on the system. I had two at one point and at first thought they made a difference but when I took them out I didn’t notice any change at all. 

And on the subject of dedicated mains I have spoken to maybe 20 electricians about this and then also a few dedicated Audio Visual installers and all of them thought it would make no difference. In fact on of the AV installers used to offer it as an extra but stopped doing so because of feedback from customers. 

As I said previously, I really, really wanted to hear a difference, personally I couldn't.

joerand posted:

Michael_B. posted:

I sometimes wonder whether the improvement people hear after all this work is due less to having a dedicated supply than to having simply improved the earthing and conductors with new components in an otherwise old installation.

Skip posted:

I actually hear more difference with the Powerlines on my dedicated circuit than I do on the main wiring.

Bob the Builder posted:

Spend  the money somewhere else on the system. I had two (PLs) at one point and at first thought they made a difference but when I took them out I didn’t notice any change at all. 

Good objective comments above, though probably only confuses the issue for Meerkat. Add to that some folks may tend to rationalize money spent on either PLs or dedicated mains to justify the expense. Tough to decide. The logical approach for me would be to try PLs (or other cables) before dedicated mains. Power cables are interchangeable and re-sellable. No return or cost recovery with dedicated mains.

It doesn't take much to confuse me!  As you say, some very helpful comments. Thanks guys.

I’ve done dedicated two times. First time no big deal, second time (and used now), like adding a Supercap. No clue why the huge difference. 

//Jonas

Jonas Olofsson posted:

I’ve done dedicated two times. First time no big deal, second time (and used now), like adding a Supercap. No clue why the huge difference. 

//Jonas

Likewise, just the other way round. In my case the difference appears to be down to a total, quality before cost, rewire of our current home. Installation carried out by my son (fully qualified sparks) who has a lot of experience in the AV field. His view is that, unless there are specific problems caused by wiring degradation, dedicated supplies can be a bit of a waste of money. He has installed quite a few, some using exorbitantly priced ‘hifi’ quality raw materials, where he has been unable to determine any significant improvement (albeit customers felt it was ‘night and day’!!).

I guess if you’re able to have a dedicated install done for the cost of a Powerline then it’s probably a punt worth taking.