Upgrade route

Posted by: docbot on 25 July 2018

I have been running a Unitiqute 2 through PMC 20.21s. I listen to so much more music now I am steaming from my upnp server (and via Qobuz) than I did when I had my Linn system.  I now have the urge for “more”!  Thinking of adding a nap200 (possibly second hand) then replacing the Qute with an ND5 XS 2 when available. Does this sound sensible? All my inputs to the Qute are digital (TV, pi, Chromecast) but may in the future want to return to Vinyl (I still have a reasonable record collection but got rid of my rp3 several years ago). How would I do that with the setup I am proposing?

many thanks for your help

Mark

Posted on: 25 July 2018 by HiFiman

You will need a pre amp between nd5xs and nap 200 as it will be loud very loud

Posted on: 25 July 2018 by docbot

Thanks Hifiman, what would you suggest?

Posted on: 25 July 2018 by HiFiman

Depends on budget, the qute is a great all in one product once you move away from the qute things get expensive.

Maybe a supernait 2 to start with and fed the qute into this as a streamer then when funds recover look at the new streaming products like the nd5xs 2   

Posted on: 25 July 2018 by hungryhalibut

Get the 200 and then swap the Qute for a 272. 

Posted on: 25 July 2018 by Timo
HiFiman posted:

Depends on budget, the qute is a great all in one product once you move away from the qute things get expensive.

The immediate budget is obviously a critical variable, but I would also spend a few thoughts on the possible “endgame” to plan a cost effective upgrade path. 

Posted on: 25 July 2018 by HiFiman
Timo posted:
HiFiman posted:

Depends on budget, the qute is a great all in one product once you move away from the qute things get expensive.

The immediate budget is obviously a critical variable, but I would also spend a few thoughts on the possible “endgame” to plan a cost effective upgrade path. 

Depends how far the OP is going to go up the future upgrade ladder.

Posted on: 25 July 2018 by Yetizone

I have a similar set up and i’m also considering how to build on the UQ2. There are options, but as Timo and HiFiman observe, its how far you want to climb on the upgrade path…

1..The obvious answer is add a NAP100 or NAP200 to your UQ2, and then later the Pre / Streamer 272 to the NAP of choice. The 272 is based on the the old streaming platform and a replacement 272 has yet to break cover. Something to consider. Although there are a lot of secondhand units now out there and you could snap up a bargain - but this will define a singular path.

2..An alternative could be to retain the UQ as a streamer only, turning off the amp section and then combine with an integrated - a used Naim XS or Supernait 1 or 2. This opens up the option for the new NDX2 (if budget allows), or the ND5 XS2 to replace the UQ streaming function when out late this summer.

3..As you mention, you could also add a streamer to the UQ now, and at a later date replace the UQ with either a pre / power or an integrated - that is a viable alternative.

With 2 and 3 there is initial UnitiQute redundancy with either streamer or amp, but would only be temporary. The good thing about keeping the streaming box independent of the pre amp allows older tech to be swapped out a little more easily if needed / desired.

Anyway, those are a few options I’ve been mulling over and I’m yet to make a decision. Currently, my little UQ2 is making some rather nice music as a streamer feeding a Nait2, and this approach has fuelled my thought process. As I have a small-ish room (4x4m box), at the moment i’m leaning towards the simplicity of an independent streamer feeding an integrated amp and then in the long term save more to concentrate on both sources (vinyl & streamer). Then the UQ2 can be used in a second system.

Hope that (ramble!) helps in some way.

Posted on: 26 July 2018 by docbot

Thanks Guys, all this has given me much to mull over. I will let you know what I end up doing - of course all depends on negotiations with the boss :-)

Posted on: 26 July 2018 by CharlieP

A good dealer can be very helpful, and help you audition the alternatives.

Posted on: 26 July 2018 by JedT

You know the other obvious route is trade in the UQ for a Nova. It depends whether you are keen to start out on the longer upgrade path (or treadmill depending on your POV) or not

Posted on: 26 July 2018 by JedT

should say I have a UQ and a superuniti and the SU is a good step up. I ran UQ/180 for a while (sounded good) but SU was a significant improvement. Everyone here reports the Nova is significantly better than SU so should be very nice indeed vs UQ.