ND555 Impressions

My dealer has one on website for £3500 inc 12 month warranty, so private sales should be lower.

Tell your dealer to raise the price to 5k, please. ????

Chag -

It’s a 2012 NDS, so presumably more recent ones would be more expensive.

rjstaines posted:

Dustysox posted:

I have everything crossed that my ND555 arrives before this thread hits 1000 replies!!!!!

Naim, are you listening...can you help ????

I was watching the dwindling resale value of NDS's this evening.  You can pick one up for under three thousand pounds !

Notwithstanding that, I noticed the distinct lack of NDS's offered for sale on that auction site.  There's now just three, all BIN at well above market price.  I was relating that to the number of ND555's being shipped and questioning in my own mind whether Naim are actually shipping this new box in any kind of quantity... or even close to the quantity that have been ordered by our dealers.

There have been two rumours that I've seen... the first about shortage of burndy cables and the latest (can't remember who) about a last minute software change;  each of which being ignored by Naim.  Wouldn't it be nice to hear how fast they are really being shipped and even whether shipping forcasts are being met.  This would be commercially sensitive, of course, but some indication of achieved or anticipated order fulfilment performance would be useful.

I feel memories of the frustration of the illusive HDX software fix* of 2010* (ish?) rising from the ranks of prospective ND555 customers.

* I think it was the HDX, and I think it was around 2010 and I'm pretty sure it was a Naim product. ... but I do remember it was bl**dy frustrating. 

This is one reason that - I have bitten the bullet ........ my NDS is a 2012 ........ even though I bought it second hand ........ I can see the resale values dropping to around 2 - 2.5k. So if i waited say 12 or 18 months - the new player cost would increase by 1k and the value of mine reduced 1-2k ..... all of a sudden - i could be around 3k down in  12 months..... in terms of trying to fund an ND555 - that would tip the balance for me in not affording to change......the chances of finding a second hand ND555 would be like finding hens teeth........ of course the alternative would have been to buy a second hand CD555 ............

And so say all of us Chag ! 

 the second hand value of NDS will remain at around 4K GBP.... no need to panic.

I tried that it didn't work - but I got close! so i jumped...

Dustysox posted:

I have everything crossed that my ND555 arrives before this thread hits 1000 replies!!!!!

Naim, are you listening...can you help ????

We can of course help you in hitting the buttons more, 

Quick question Bert ........ I have auditioned the ND555 but in a lesser system than mine ........ in your system have found the perceived bass performance - leaner but also tighter and deeper .... seems a contradiction but I am sure I detected this effect even on a different pre-amp and power amp combo.

RICHIEROO, I had simalar thoughts as yourself but I need a 555PS to go with my ND555.

if I had waited till next year the price increase on both would be a bitter pill to swallow plus it is more than likely that the dealer offer for my NDX could diminish as the NDX2 becomes available.

My dealer and I have agreed the numbers and I will visit the shop in the morning to confirm the order. I think I am probably looking at six weeks delivery can't wait.  

Yeah - agree it is a tricky one ........ but on balance for me it was the right thing to do .... especial since I got a reasonable generous offer on my NDS. There seem to be plenty  of 555ps on the market ........ so I would pick up a s/h unit and then upgrade ... when funds permit....... I have a feeling that you will not wait long .... especially when that beast is lingering waiting to be hooked up!!!

rjstaines posted:

I was watching the dwindling resale value of NDS's this evening.  You can pick one up for under three thousand pounds !

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Wouldn't it be nice to hear how fast they are really being shipped and even whether shipping forcasts are being met.  This would be commercially sensitive, of course, but some indication of achieved or anticipated order fulfilment performance would be useful.

I too noticed that sale price, but it was scratched. I'm now trying to convince myself that a scratch like that is not something that any serious self-respecting music lover could ever live with and would be willing to spend considerably more to get a mint example!

As far as shipping forecasts are concerned, I never pay them any heed. Not unless I'm planning to go wind surfing, of course.

Richieroo posted:

if i waited say 12 or 18 months - the new player cost would increase by 1k and the value of mine reduced 1-2k ..... all of a sudden - i could be around 3k down in  12 months.....

And now you're only down £9-10K.

Good save

rjstaines posted:

Wouldn't it be nice to hear how fast they are really being shipped and even whether shipping forcasts are being met. 

My order is scheduled to arrive in the first week of September. That equates to a lead time of about one month. I will share the delivery date after the fact. This is not commercially sensitive information.

Harry posted:

Richieroo posted:

if i waited say 12 or 18 months - the new player cost would increase by 1k and the value of mine reduced 1-2k ..... all of a sudden - i could be around 3k down in  12 months.....

And now you're only down £9-10K.

Good save

I worked out the same logic. I suspect my order will be going in when my NAP500 comes back from its DR treatment.

Similar here. Isn't maths useful when used properly?

Clive B posted:

I too noticed that sale price, but it was scratched. I'm now trying to convince myself that a scratch like that is not something that any serious self-respecting music lover could ever live with and would be willing to spend considerably more to get a mint example!

 

I'd be more than happy to pay less for a scratched case of any box every day of the week - each to his own. Black felt tip or boot polish can work wonders! 

Pev posted:

Clive B posted:

I too noticed that sale price, but it was scratched. I'm now trying to convince myself that a scratch like that is not something that any serious self-respecting music lover could ever live with and would be willing to spend considerably more to get a mint example!

 

I'd be more than happy to pay less for a scratched case of any box every day of the week - each to his own. Black felt tip or boot polish can work wonders! 

I'm with you on that. Then again someone was bemoaning the marks left un the underside of his ND555 by the tape Naim used to stop the transit bolts unscrewing under the gentle care of a courier driver.

Pev posted:

Clive B posted:

I too noticed that sale price, but it was scratched. I'm now trying to convince myself that a scratch like that is not something that any serious self-respecting music lover could ever live with and would be willing to spend considerably more to get a mint example!

 

I'd be more than happy to pay less for a scratched case of any box every day of the week - each to his own. Black felt tip or boot polish can work wonders! 

Scratched equipment to me means a lack of care taken with its ownership. For some items that's not an issue, but for a piece of high quality audio kit that needs extra care taken when moving (due to its floaty bits) , I'd be a bit wary of something that wasn't completely mint.

If I was looking for an NDS then a mint, cared for example would more likely get my cash. As you say, each to their own.

Pev posted:

Clive B posted:

I too noticed that sale price, but it was scratched. I'm now trying to convince myself that a scratch like that is not something that any serious self-respecting music lover could ever live with and would be willing to spend considerably more to get a mint example!

 

I'd be more than happy to pay less for a scratched case of any box every day of the week - each to his own. Black felt tip or boot polish can work wonders! 

Not everyone gets my dry sense of humour. 

analogmusic posted:

 the second hand value of NDS will remain at around 4K GBP.... no need to panic.

 

As I've always said... "I like a man with a sense of humour"  

rjstaines posted:

analogmusic posted:

 the second hand value of NDS will remain at around 4K GBP.... no need to panic.

 

As I've always said... "I like a man with a sense of humour"  

Totally agree .......... 

Someone on here got their 500 Killed By Courrier on its way back to Salisbury for some work. Its arrival happened to coincide with a factory visit I was on. It was a truly horrifying sight. It looked like it had been dragged behind a vehicle for miles. Maybe it had!

Could that been dr-agged.............

For the purposes of this conversation - very possibly.