NAT03 vs NAT05 with 552

3140 - NOT the original, as I'd assumed. You are correct the 3040 that was the first model.

It had a flush DIN socket but we (OK - service department) were able to fit a locking socket that stuck out far enough for the AirPlug.

I recall Michael Creek pointing out a trim pot which would allow me to widen the tuning range to pick up police transmissions. Odd that I wanted to.

Thanks

I have been following this thread with interest. Rediscovering the NAT03 in comparison with the NAT05 - does it bring a new prospective on the former NAT05 vs. the later XS version? ????

Chag -

Adam Meredith posted:

3140 - NOT the original, as I'd assumed. You are correct the 3040 that was the first model.

It had a flush DIN socket but we (OK - service department) were able to fit a locking socket that stuck out far enough for the AirPlug.

 

I recall Michael Creek pointing out a trim pot which would allow me to widen the tuning range to pick up police transmissions. Odd that I wanted to.

WOW, WOW ,WOW.

Behave. You know discussing modifications is not allowed.

You should know better.

And indeed the modification was done seemingly by the Naim service dept... so all cosha I’m sure.... 

But a good tip from Adam nonetheless, because it would not have been clear the Naim Air-plugs would not have fitted the original Creek DIN socket.

Adam Meredith posted:

3140 - NOT the original, as I'd assumed. You are correct the 3040 that was the first model.

It had a flush DIN socket but we (OK - service department) were able to fit a locking socket that stuck out far enough for the AirPlug.

 

I recall Michael Creek pointing out a trim pot which would allow me to widen the tuning range to pick up police transmissions. Odd that I wanted to.

I have also been following this with interest. I have been wondering about a NAT 03 or 05 fir quite a while but last week I got my Creek 3140 our of the loft, got for a pittance from a friend a few years ago but barely used as no roof aerial, and then consigned to the lift because of box count. Now thinking get a roof aerial put up and see how it sounds (and forget the box count!). Will be regular rca to din connector though, no Hi-line - how did it sound before you swapped in the hi line? Thanks 

Alba1320 posted:

^ Doesn't that just apply to modification of Naim equipment?

No.

Simon-in-Suffolk posted:

And indeed the modification was done seemingly by the Naim service dept... so all cosha I’m sure.... 

 

So, Naims service department is int he business of modifying other manufacturers equipment.

Probably to allow the use of Naim components, in this case a Hiline ... I guess of course unless it’s Creek there is no warranty and it is at owners risk ... but I think you are missing the point or getting ever so slightly pedantry ... the key thing here is if you want to use your Naim DIN Hiline  with a Creek 3140 source  it will need to be modified by yourself, Creek or another commercial electronics modification or service business. Really good advice, and what this forum is all about.

Ah. It was modified to allow the use of a Naim product. Well that's ok then.

fatcat posted:

Simon-in-Suffolk posted:

And indeed the modification was done seemingly by the Naim service dept... so all cosha I’m sure.... 

 

So, Naims service department is int he business of modifying other manufacturers equipment.

FC, I'm OK with this and I think perhaps you're missing the point here.  IIRC the Din socket was one of those nasty plastic things and I seem to recall it was loose so Adam asked the service dept. if they could fix it.  They did and in so doing they fitted a better and stronger Din socket.  The happy consequence was that it allowed use of a Hiline.  I'm not sure that qualifies so much as a "modification" such as is referred to within the forum rules.  To be clear the rules do not permit discussion of DIY, or unauthorised modifications to Naim equipment.  This is to ensure that members are not encouraged to do anything silly that may end up damaging or ruining the equipment or indeed, hurting themselves or others as a consequence.

Richard Dane posted:

and I seem to recall it was loose so Adam asked the service dept. if they could fix it.  

Quiet week lads?

Yes it actually came about because my Creek was intermittent on one channel. The better DIN socket happily allowed BOTH Naim lockable and HiLine to be used.

To be clear - I wrote to Michael Creek and he arranged for one of the Naim Service Department Special Ops team to visit his factory for crucial training prior to undertaking this repair (as he insisted on calling it).

I was, as (apparently) PlumpPuss so sensibly points out, uncomfortable about this in SO many ways. I therefore asked Michael to courier down a signed and witnessed velum certificate of compliance - this being glued inside the case in such a way as to prohibit any further meddling. 

Recently I squeezed all the components into an NAPSC box and labelled it with a Bentley logo. 

I just don't care - bite me.

From recent reports, you're lucky it wasn't returned from its service with two intermittent channels.????

The Creek design looks interesting as they use an in house rf head end rather than OEM one, and adjustable IF to optimise adjacent channel distortion/modulation.. certainly should be of benefit if you have a high gain aerial pulling in severeal transmitters with reasonably closely spaced stations of varying strengths in a general common direction.. as I do.. I am tempted to get one .. as is said above they appear to cost very little used.