200DR FOR 200

Posted by: Calum Ferguson on 06 August 2018

Gents,

I am just putting my gear back together after being out of action for the best part of two years:

CD5XS/DAC/202/200/HCDR/NAPSC

Before I re-install I wonder if a 200DR should be dropped in and whether this is a cost-effective upgrade. I would intend to trade the 200 at the same dealer where purchased.

Due to box count/budget this is all I can do but I love my 200 and this upgrade seems to be inevitable.

As a follow-up if order the 200DR what is the quickest turnaround I can expect ? Do NAIM keep a small inventory of 200DR's available for instant shipment ?

Thanks.

 

 

 

 

Posted on: 07 August 2018 by Calum Ferguson
Dreadatthecontrols posted:
notCalum Ferguson posted:
hungryhalibut posted:
David Hendon posted:

Although I am a bloke, I know there are quite a few women members of the forum and it's all the better for that in my opinion.

best

David

I’m not so sure they’d take ‘sorry love’ particularly well. A number of the female members use male Forum names to avoid precisely that sort of behaviour. 

Only messing around, no worries, on the plane the other week the BA cabin crew woman addressed all the men as “love”, I said if I address a woman like that back home I could be chased out of town,   these things are very much down to where you’re from and upbringing 

not sure that background and upbringing works as an excuse...lol

 

Posted on: 07 August 2018 by Calum Ferguson

Maybe not, but I am not seeking to be excused it doesn’t have to work

Posted on: 08 August 2018 by Mike Hughes

Man who insists that the 282 is almost never the end game for any Naim user is quite enjoying reading current threads

Posted on: 08 August 2018 by analogmusic

282 is considerably better than a 202.

I got both so no ownership bias...

 

Posted on: 08 August 2018 by mattl
ChrisSU posted:

The DR spec in a 200 only applies to its preamp power supply 

Does that differ from the DR spec of a NAP250 then, since the 250 doesn't have the ability to power the preamp?

Posted on: 08 August 2018 by hungryhalibut

The 250, 300 and 500 have DR regulation and the 009 transistors from Statement. The 200 is not a regulated amplifier and has DR regulation solely in its preamp power supply. 

Posted on: 08 August 2018 by Mike Hughes
analogmusic posted:

282 is considerably better than a 202.

I got both so no ownership bias...

 

I never said it wasn’t. Merely maintaining that it’s the runt of the litter. Amusingly 2 ppl on the recent thread who insisted it was their end game have since been back exploring other upgrades.

Posted on: 08 August 2018 by ChrisSU
mattl posted:
ChrisSU posted:

The DR spec in a 200 only applies to its preamp power supply 

Does that differ from the DR spec of a NAP250 then, since the 250 doesn't have the ability to power the preamp?

Yes, as HH says, the 250 and above have DR supplies to the power amp itself, and cannot power a preamp. 

Posted on: 08 August 2018 by Dreadatthecontrols

In lay terms what does a DR spec actually do and how does it improve SQ over a non DR equivalent PSU, amplifier etc?

Posted on: 08 August 2018 by analogmusic
Mike Hughes posted:
analogmusic posted:

282 is considerably better than a 202.

I got both so no ownership bias...

 

I never said it wasn’t. Merely maintaining that it’s the runt of the litter. Amusingly 2 ppl on the recent thread who insisted it was their end game have since been back exploring other upgrades.

I can't agree to that. 

If anything it's the 202 which is the one I would avoid... 

 

Posted on: 08 August 2018 by analogmusic
Mike Hughes posted:
analogmusic posted:

282 is considerably better than a 202.

I got both so no ownership bias...

 

I never said it wasn’t. Merely maintaining that it’s the runt of the litter. Amusingly 2 ppl on the recent thread who insisted it was their end game have since been back exploring other upgrades.

The 202 is a dead end. 282 allows usage of supercar and nap 300.

It was a bad decision for me to buy a 202 and should have bought 282 right away. Bought one eventually and wish i

Posted on: 08 August 2018 by Guinnless

The DR spec greatly improves the regulation of the power feed. This ensures that whatever the current draw you will not have a varying power source.  No matter how fast the demand for power changes the DR will maintain stability and react faster than the non DR supplies. 

Posted on: 08 August 2018 by Calum Ferguson
analogmusic posted:
Mike Hughes posted:
analogmusic posted:

282 is considerably better than a 202.

I got both so no ownership bias...

 

I never said it wasn’t. Merely maintaining that it’s the runt of the litter. Amusingly 2 ppl on the recent thread who insisted it was their end game have since been back exploring other upgrades.

The 202 is a dead end. 282 allows usage of supercar and nap 300.

It was a bad decision for me to buy a 202 and should have bought 282 right away. Bought one eventually and wish i

The 202/200 is a price point in the range with limitations on what PS upgrades can be used which makes sense. Given the 252 is “only” £ 1500 more than 282 I would stay with 202/200 or go 252/250, much more cost-effective, bit like moving from 1 bed starter home to 3 bed

Posted on: 08 August 2018 by analogmusic

Not quite only 1500 GBP

The supercap  required for 252

But 282 can work with 200 i.e no PSU

Flat cap

Hi cap

2 hicap

Supercap

Out of all my nain purchases I regret most the 202.

 

 

 

 

Posted on: 08 August 2018 by Calum Ferguson

At the end of the day it comes down to £/$/€, I think I’ve got the best there is for my money having started with a NAIT 5i/CD5i, no regrets, it’s all you can do 

Posted on: 09 August 2018 by mpw

Hi

Which are your speakers  ?

Posted on: 09 August 2018 by Calum Ferguson

ELAC 310 CE, metal cabinets, teutonic design, would buy from this manufacturer again, 4 ohm, chewed up NAIT 5i, NAP 200 quite happy with them, 202 volume never exceeds a quarter to