Minimserver.

From memory, Minim doesn’t carry the album art up to the artist level. Maybe its something to do with folder view. 

It's a feature of the Naim app. If you are a windows user then open Media Player and navigate through so that it is Minim that is the server. Everything displays just fine. 

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Sorry Artist view (still works)

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Thanks, Bananahead, unfortunately I'm on a MacBook, good shout, though. 

HH reckons that this may be normal behaviour for Minimserver, but does seem odd that the album art won't display, though it's clearly loaded, showing in "Artist" view. 

Doesn't the Macbook have a media player?

dave marshall posted:

HH reckons that this may be normal behaviour for Minimserver, but does seem odd that the album art won't display, though it's clearly loaded, showing in "Artist" view. 

Maybe I have misunderstood, but I thought you said that it was in album view that the artwork was missing, when you navigated to it via the artist. That certainly isn't intended behaviour, and it's not something I've noticed using Minimserver on Synology, in either folder view or tag view. I wonder if it is something to do with the way in which your artwork tags have been done?

Maybe worth asking on the Minimserver forum, as the developer is active there, and may have some suggestions.

Here's a wild guess! You ripped the albums on a Naim ripper/server, saved them in WAV, and now the artwork is misbehaving on a non-Naim server because it handles it differently?!

The default player is QuickTime player, which doesn't seem to offer as many features as Windows Media Player.

ChrisSU posted:

Here's a wild guess! You ripped the albums on a Naim ripper/server, saved them in WAV, and now the artwork is misbehaving on a non-Naim server because it handles it differently?!

Yes, had the album art been missing completely, I'd have guessed that the metadata tags were missing, and that I'd have to convert everything to Flac.

But it does seem odd that, navigating within the Naim app, whilst it's missing in the initial "Folder" view, tapping into "Artist" view, it magically appears, all present and correct, then disappears once again when tapping to elect an album. So, it would look like the tags have done as they should, since the album art appears correctly in "Artist" view.

I'll do as you suggest, though, and have a look over on the Minimserver forum.

Cheers, Chris.

Dave - WAV of FLAC files?

I just saw that you’ve answered my quesiton. Unfortunately Minimserver is not very kind to UnitiServe rips in WAV format...

Adam Zielinski posted:

I just saw that you’ve answered my quesiton. Unfortunately Minimserver is not very kind to UnitiServe rips in WAV format...

My version of Minimserver doesn't show album art for searches Artists and All Artists., where there is a folder.jpg file in each album folder. Assett does.

Well, if I don't get anywhere over on the Minimserver forum, I'll look at swapping to Asset, assuming it works ok on my Qnap.

Say you have a few albums by an artist. In Artist view, Minim won’t pick one to represent the artist, so you get the folder icon. Asset, on the other hand, will pick one for you. 

Another big pro for Asset is that it automatically scans for new albums, so there is no need to fiddle with MinimWatch on the computer to get it to scan. Albums appear on the Naim app in seconds, literally, when using Asset. 

If these are WAV albums ripped on a Unitiserve and you are now playing them on the Qnap, be prepared for other challenges. It’s always best to get the Unitiserve to convert them to flac before putting them elsewhere. 

dave marshall posted:

Well, if I don't get anywhere over on the Minimserver forum, I'll look at swapping to Asset, assuming it works ok on my Qnap.

Asset is a tried and tested server for QNAP, probably worth a try. 

Do you still have an HDX? If so, try converting to FLAC on that before moving to another server if you haven’t already. 

I say go for Asset.  I have a Synology NAS & have been limited to their native slow & clunky Media Server, or Minimserver.  I did not feel happy with Minim despite it having a lot of fans on this & other forums;  the need for Java & MinimWatch & the odd occasion when a Synology update left it behind became frustrating.     

Illustrate are in the process of developing an Asset UPnP for Synology & I've just started to run the beta for this,  OK so I'm no Asset expert,  but what I've seen in this last week has impressed. I'm not sure what art it cannot display as it has art everywhere & unlike the slow Synology server program its remarkably instant.  I'm still learning the various user settings & have yet to find something I don't like. Like I say,  I'm impressed, 

I'm reluctant to convert everything from Wav to Flac, as I remain one of those odd folk who's still convinced that I can hear a difference in replay.

I'll pick some brains on the Minimserver forum, and if I can't resolve things, have a look at Asset.

Hi Dave,  the idea is to convert to FLAC in the HDX,   that will take the unique way Naim have chosen to attach metadata & embed it into the stnd FLAC format.  Then you transfer the new FLAC files over to the QNAP & convert them back to WAV using a prog like dBpoweramp & this will embed the metadata as its done by all everyone outside Naim.   

But you have a 2nd & simpler option,   with the QNAP (& Asset) you can set it in 'configure' to transcode the FLAC files to play as WAV,  this way the Naim streamer receives the data stream as WAV encoded & has the SQ of WAV.  

As Mike says, you have to convert to FLAC on the HDX in order to export usable metadata from it to other devices, but if WAV is your preference for whatever reason, convert it back afterwards. 

dave marshall posted:

I'm reluctant to convert everything from Wav to Flac, as I remain one of those odd folk who's still convinced that I can hear a difference in replay.

Me too. Pass the hearing aid.

In the end, I did all my own tags after we moved our HDX on and went NAS/embedded server/streamer. A project of some years, done in small doses, with many batch jobs, which means that I now have my music tagged exactly as I want it.  The Naim tagging model is, ahem, um.... not the best, shall we say? Actually, many providers/publishers do shit tags, but at least they put something in the files. Naim doesn't.

As alluded to already, some stuff that won't behave can be converted, tagged and converted back to WAV. Most formats are interconvertible and will preserve data unless you change the settings. I use dBpoweramp. There are many convertors out there.

dave marshall posted:

I'm reluctant to convert everything from Wav to Flac, as I remain one of those odd folk who's still convinced that I can hear a difference in replay.

I'll pick some brains on the Minimserver forum, and if I can't resolve things, have a look at Asset.

If you transcode flac to WAV it will sound exactly the same as native WAV. The files are much smaller too. 

It is normal that minimserver does not display a cover for an artist folder in folder view as long as it does not have its own folder.jpg image.

But it is not normal that the cover is not displayed inside the album folder. Maybe the files do have a broken cover art meta tag that overwrites the folder's image? Or did you try to clear the upnp cache in the naim app if you have added the album art later on?

Maybe you should try to disable the ShowExtras feature in minimserver, because there are compatibility problems with the naim app. See note 5 in the following linked paragraph:

http://minimserver.com/ug-brow...tml#Control%20points