Synergistic Research Plug Fuse
Posted by: Obsydian on 27 August 2018
I recently added the aforementioned fuse to my Wireworld 6 way distribution, after adding a number of Belden mains cables, note the Wireworld feeds only my Router, Switch, Fibre Bridge, TV and Sky box, the Nova is sited away and is powered off another mains outlet.
This is the reason I posted this on the Streaming thread.
The SR Blue Fuse has had me overwhelmed for quite a few days now, is has an steady break in, but to me the best way to describe the improvement is like major amp upgrade.
Again bear in mind the Fuse is not directly near my Nova, only the Ethernet is the link.
I have had to drop my usual listening volume by some margin, as the sound is so wide, the bass has gone an octave or few further, but very taut, tuneful bass, just so much more.
The level of detail is quite shocking, but to be honest overwhelming after a while, initially is wasn't so bright, yesterday it's was just information overload, today much more fluid.
My main point here is a very simple change not directly to the Naim gear, is bringing substantial improvements.
The fuse is apparently on 30 day return policy, so nothing to loose, just hoping the break in ups and downs smooth out, I've heard from the person who recommend it to me, it just keeps getting better, if that's the case for yes a shocking price for a fuse, this is an amazing upgrade, that's IF it settles.
Either way the fuse will stay as the improvement it has brought to my TV is amazing.
My SR Blue fuse is in my 6 way extension now, that has a Belden cable, and silver coated plugtop connectors, all my HiFi plugs into this, Im going to add the HiFi tuning fuse to the Nova’s Powerline lite, see if it makes any difference.
Well I left work early as Post Office advised SR Power cord here, come pay the customs charge , I did intend writing a dedicated thread, but ...
My £1000 cable came fitted with a top end plug, yes real top end pound shop, Masterplug £1.49 !!!
On top of that the impressive, bulky and very substantial cable, the USA technician heat shrunk over part of the plug, meaning it would not even seat properly, fortunately I managed to cut some it away.
Cable is otherwise VERY impressive, sound is a major shift, hard to pin point as so much has changed, for the better. Noise floor is pitch black, I'm keeping the same volume level to be fair, but in time needs to go up a few notches.
Will I keep it, I doubt it, damn shame.
It can’t be from the Pound Shop if it cost £1.49. Home Bargains, maybe?
hungryhalibut posted:It can’t be from the Pound Shop if it cost £1.49. Home Bargains, maybe?
Doh sorry, the £1.49p shop ????
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what do you mean when you say your impressed with it but you won’t keep it?
its good but not £1000 good?
Problem is you’ve heard it now and it’ll be hard to go back!!!
The Americans probably don’t care much for uk plugs so any will do in their eyes, have you had a look inside the plug, any tweaks you can see in there? I’ve seen some secret added bits in my MCRU cables.
Anavrin posted:The Americans probably don’t care much for uk plugs so any will do in their eyes, have you had a look inside the plug, any tweaks you can see in there? I’ve seen some secret added bits in my MCRU cables.
Look inside an American plug & a European "Schuko" & all I see is wires & terminals, some are even soldered, & not a fuse in sight anywhere - whoopee doo
I'm sorry but this thread is hilarious, are the two main posters really serious with all this "magic" stuff? Is this real? or are they having a laugh...
Anavrin posted:[@mention:1566878604014936]
what do you mean when you say your impressed with it but you won’t keep it?
its good but not £1000 good?
Problem is you’ve heard it now and it’ll be hard to go back!!!
The Americans probably don’t care much for uk plugs so any will do in their eyes, have you had a look inside the plug, any tweaks you can see in there? I’ve seen some secret added bits in my MCRU cables.
I am torn as i left the SR PC (Power Cable) running and even after 4hrs the amount of detail, soundstage, noise floor, clarity is alarming, bass is all over the place, it appears to be a similar but more extreme break in as the SR Blue Plug Fuse.
One other concern is the PC is like a damn python, at 1.5m and ~30mm thick it is impressive, but going into a standard MasterPlug just looks and is wrong. Interestingly i had to open the plug to cut the heat shrink away and insert my SR Blue fuse, yes it is a basic plug, but each wire feeding in is substantial and near the grub screws i can see the graphene coating. The PC i bought is pretty much graphene on each wire and all connections, then also around the python like shield (overcoat).
i decided to contact SR direct to resolve, as i feel the cable is a keeper and my intention is to find a resolution, then in a few months also upgrade to their Ethernet cable.
Bottom line dealer is SUPERB, he said even before all of this, IF you demo and dislike send it back no problem.
I whileback i compared my Chord Signature PC to the Sarum, it was VERY good but nearly £2k, wasn't in my system but an A-B-A in a similar Naim system, there was no dealer anywhere willing to loan or a free trial. For me you only give a money back guarantee when you are confident.
Reason for mentioning this, the SR Atmosphere PC is in a totally different league to the Chord Signature and Sarum.
dknk posted:I'm sorry but this thread is hilarious, are the two main posters really serious with all this "magic" stuff? Is this real? or are they having a laugh...
I find it a useful warning of the dangers of seeking tweaks that others do not find a tweak. I observe similar behaviour of small numbers in other forums. Sociologists will have a word for it.
My DAC developed a fault and I blew 2 fuses in the process of trying to find out why. I had to buy replacements so imagine the cost at the level of these fuses. I could end up homeless and on the streets.
Don’t know how lucky they are
Brian H posted:dknk posted:I'm sorry but this thread is hilarious, are the two main posters really serious with all this "magic" stuff? Is this real? or are they having a laugh...
I find it a useful warning of the dangers of seeking tweaks that others do not find a tweak. I observe similar behaviour of small numbers in other forums. Sociologists will have a word for it.
My DAC developed a fault and I blew 2 fuses in the process of trying to find out why. I had to buy replacements so imagine the cost at the level of these fuses. I could end up homeless and on the streets.
Don’t know how lucky they are
Brian, I assume that would have been the fuses inside the equipment. Such things are not being discussed here - for safety as well as performance reasons they should only ever be replaced exactly like for like.
dknk posted:I'm sorry but this thread is hilarious, are the two main posters really serious with all this "magic" stuff? Is this real? or are they having a laugh...
Hi dknk
I got interested in this thread after doing a little research and wondering how on earth can a plugtop fuse be worth £130!!
Sounds crazy I know but I bought one anyway, fully expecting to send it back but it proved it’s worth, when I removed it, the sound of my system changed for the worse, I put it back and It sounded good again.
Im more interested in the broader picture of both mains leads and the fuse’s, there is a genuine sonic benifit by upgrading the last 2m of wire suppling your system, Naim themselfs will sell you a 2m powerline mains lead for £599 and it accepted by many here that it improves the sound quality of your system.
Im just keeping an open mind and experimenting where I can afford to, which so far it just a couple of fuse’s and a fairly inexpensive aftermarket mains lead, however I’ve gone back to the powerline lite supplied with my Nova.
Day two the SR Atmosphere power cable, even with a £1.5 Masterplug if transforming my Nova.
I had to reposition things as the power cable is like a python, but difficult to do as my Naim speaker plugs/cable touch the shelf.
I am awaiting SR to respond, superb dealer said immediately if your not happy return for a full refund, but this is a once you've heard it, you can't do without it.
Richard Dane posted:Brian H posted:dknk posted:I'm sorry but this thread is hilarious, are the two main posters really serious with all this "magic" stuff? Is this real? or are they having a laugh...
I find it a useful warning of the dangers of seeking tweaks that others do not find a tweak. I observe similar behaviour of small numbers in other forums. Sociologists will have a word for it.
My DAC developed a fault and I blew 2 fuses in the process of trying to find out why. I had to buy replacements so imagine the cost at the level of these fuses. I could end up homeless and on the streets.
Don’t know how lucky they are
Brian, I assume that would have been the fuses inside the equipment. Such things are not being discussed here - for safety as well as performance reasons they should only ever be replaced exactly like for like.
Richard
You are correct it was the fuse within my equipment. What I was attempting to introduce was the possibility of an expensive fuse acutally having to be a fuse, blow and incurring a significant expense in a replacement. I trust it is acceptable to mention the cost and it’s purpose? Or should I have simply said - if that fuse does blow it will be expensive, as it would.
As it was I felt no curiosity to try any audiophile fuses as enthused over here by a few. Despite Maplins closing I was able to get 3 T2A at 20p each with hours, within half a mile for which I was most grateful.
My Naim gear, MU-So, uses figure of eight cable so I cannot even experiment with an approved enhanced mains cable.
Got the HiFi fuse today, I’ve no idea how these little one inch bits of tiny wire work in terms of improving sound quality but somehow it does!
Its not like the blue fuse, which takes time to run in, this is an instant improvement in sound quality.
let me explain my setup, I have a custom made but relatively cheap 6 way extension lead with the SR Blue Fuse in its plugtop, All my Equipment is plugged into this block, I’ve now installed the HiFi tuning fuse in the Nova’s plugtop, which is plugged into a the extension.
I noticed an immediate improvement in sound quality, not like the SR Blue fuse which took time to run in, there’s an instant improvement in both timing and tightness of the music, A major PRaT upgrade in one very cheap (£35) pop!
I have a Nova, so only one black box, if I had more, I wouldn’t hesitate in buying more of these fuse’s.
Pound for pound this upgrade is cheap but very cheerful recommended ????
ive got one of those in my nova and would agree for £35 its worth adding to my powerline. And thats it no more tweaks or what if's...
hungryhalibut posted:Brian, you too can play...
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Thanks for the thought and suggestion. Surely that isn’t a Naim creation or even modification. I saw a certain vendor who focused on Mains things from the start offered a fig 8 jobbie but only for Sky boxes, so no use. Ideally I could do with a bit longer mains wire.
No I have enough in the PRAT dept so do not seek the benefits our two fuse fans speak about. Too much PRaT may be OTT.
I await the considerations of someone(s) who understands electro-metallurgical science and their reasons why our fuse fans experience what they do.
BRIANH - A certain main cables r us type company does stock fig 8 cables, yes advertised as Sky, but it is the same standard fig 8, so you could try this, i believe he offers a money back guarantee also, Google him.
OBSYDIAN
Yes I am aware of the possibilty of using that vendors products and I see Tesco offer one at a significant saving. I think I will see if I have a long enough substantial kettle lead and swap the IEC for a fig 8 plug.
Enjoy your fuse fun. I could never hear what you do.