Are Super Lumina speaker cables stil a “work in progress?”

I have to strongly disagree. 

Naca 5 and superlumina are a part of the naim sound

ive heard 2 chord speaker cables (epic and signature) and they don’t time well to be in a naim system (not mine anyway)

its a shame because they’re cheaper than superlumina 

analogmusic posted:

I have to strongly disagree. 

 

But of course you do...

er, but what exactly are you disagreeing with strongly?

Dave J posted:

analogmusic posted:

I have to strongly disagree. 

 

But of course you do...

er, but what exactly are you disagreeing with strongly?

Does it matter

Dave J posted:

analogmusic posted:

I have to strongly disagree. 

 

But of course you do...

er, but what exactly are you disagreeing with strongly?

this...

" It’s not, the groove we all love so much about Naim is from what’s upstream, speaker cables just get in the way or not."

To my ears, Chord Epic and Signature speakers get in the way of the groove/music...

Heard Chord music too extensively, nice sounding cable, but that's just it,... despite what Chord says about the cable being transparent, I can still hear it. It imparts what another forum member (Chris Bell) says "delightful sweetness" on all high frequencies.

Yeah, right. 

Perol posted:

Dave J posted:

analogmusic posted:

I have to strongly disagree. 

 

But of course you do...

er, but what exactly are you disagreeing with strongly?

Does it matter

No, you’re quite right, it doesn’t. It just amused me, sorry 

Dave you are entitled to your opinion, but you take every opportunity to be critical of  Naim Superlumina cables.

Dave J posted:

Please bear in mind that, although I’ve heard Sarum T speaker cables (I do use Sarum T power cords), I’ve only owned the earlier standard Sarum versions, so can only comment on them (and the ChordMusic cables that I now use, which are something else entirely!)

They allowed me to get the best out my Naim system, simple as that. I’d never heard my Naim system sound so wonderful as when I first it with Sarum. It gave access to elements of the music and, more importantly, the performance,  that I’d previously never been aware of.  

Oh yeah, and that includes timing, which some seem to think is down to speaker cable choice. It’s not, the groove we all love so much about Naim is from what’s upstream, speaker cables just get in the way or not. Sarum doesn’t get in the way.

I'm not advocating for Chord, am invested in Naim with expectation of expanding my Naim commitment, but mention of Sarum T continues to be raised and I would appreciate thoughts on this cable compared to SL. 

I assume Naim contracts out cables to their specifications and thought Chord was a Naim brand interconnect cable. Does anyone know who the current fabricator is?  

To paraphrase David J. does SL speaker cable provide best access to musical performance?       

For what it is worth, not much probably, I preferred Naca5 to SL speaker cable when I did the demo with a 500 level system...SL seemed to filter out all of the good stuff to my ears...

ATB,

Mark

Why does everyone talk about this “timing” thing? Personally I haven’t got a clue what you’re on about. Are certain musicians on a recording suddenly getting it wrong because of the wrong cables? 

I have the SL I/C between the CD555 and the NAC552.  I had the Sarum I/C before.  There is a lot more live feel with the SL.  I noticed it last night when my son's musician GF could not quit tapping her hands to the music.    I also notice how multiple horns in the midrange are well resolved.   I don't expect to get speaker cables but so far the SL demo here is going well.   I don't see myself as a candidate for Chord Music.

Skip.... I have found the source SL interconnect makes a large difference.... the other cables do make a difference .... but not in the same order.

By the way how old is Mr Colloms??? I am an old crock....and I remember his articles from 37 years ago!!!

You could say work in progress, as a backwards step for me over the standard cables. After an extended period with the din to din interconnect and speaker cable, i was happy to go back to the lavender and NAC A5, and i'm not even considering value for money, as the cheaper set played better music for me.