Naim App for windows 10 on a surface

Posted by: John Byrne on 29 October 2018

Can I add my vote for having a NAIM app for Windows 10 surface?

Posted on: 29 October 2018 by PG

Nope, not till there's one for a Mac, lol.

 

Posted on: 29 October 2018 by Peter1480

Use Bluestacks on the Windows 10 surface pro to run the android app, works well.

Posted on: 30 October 2018 by John Byrne

Thanks Peter, I've installed Bluestacks and android naim app but I can't get it to find my naim devices. 

Posted on: 31 October 2018 by Terry Smith

I also tried on two different PC's and had the same problem that the emulator and the Naim app load fine but it cant find any rooms . Anyone have any insight or advice please id really like to get this working if I can 

Thanks in advance 

Posted on: 31 October 2018 by Peter1480

The only thing that I can think is that you need to be connected to your home network and switch off any other devices i.e phones. It should then work like the app on any android device. I have the Naim app and Bluesound apps working.

Posted on: 03 November 2018 by John Byrne

Ah! Bluesound is different from Bluestacks?

Posted on: 03 November 2018 by John Byrne

I understand now, looking at your picture. I've tried again and not been able to find rooms. All other devices off. Looks like there's a fundamental problem that nobody knows how to fix.

Posted on: 04 November 2018 by Simon-in-Suffolk
Terry Smith posted:

I also tried on two different PC's and had the same problem that the emulator and the Naim app load fine but it cant find any rooms . Anyone have any insight or advice please id really like to get this working if I can 

Well assuming network connectivity, it would suggest the implementation of multicast group addresses is not working or designed correctly on the emulator.

Posted on: 04 November 2018 by Flo-TLSC

It is probably because Bluestacks gives itself an IP address outside your home network. I could not get the App to find my Atom either. I switched to another emulator called Nox Player. Nox is a much more configurable Android version. To get it to ‘work’ I had to go into the Nox System settings, the wee cockwheel. Then in the Property settings tab I had to enable ‘Network Bridge connection’. It installed a driver after that and restarted Nox. Then go back to this Property settings tab and go into the Bridge settings and give Nox a Static IP address in the same group as your home network. For instance in my case my laptop was assigned  192.168.1.60  so I gave Nox 192.168.1.61. Enter your Gateway, Subnet Mask and DNS1 & DNS2 and restart Nox.

After that it worked fine. It finds the Atom and Minimserver okay.

Posted on: 04 November 2018 by Peter1480

If you do n't have success with Nox or Bluestacks there are also Andyroid, Youwave, Droid4x, android emulators. I find Bluestacks loads faster than Nox and is more responsive to key strokes with an attched keyboard. I guess it's which ever is your preference.

Posted on: 04 November 2018 by Volker

Is there any good UPnP app for Windows? Might be an easier way than emulating Android. But I didn't find one so far - BubbleUPnP & Co don't seem to exist for Windows. But maybe someone here knows one?

Posted on: 05 November 2018 by Peter1480
Volker posted:

Is there any good UPnP app for Windows? Might be an easier way than emulating Android. But I didn't find one so far - BubbleUPnP & Co don't seem to exist for Windows. But maybe someone here knows one?

In short not that I know of. The only work round I have for that, is to use window media player or foobar 2000 or similar Point it at you nas library and cast it to your player. Sounds quality is very good. You'll need to enable media streaming in Windows 10.

Posted on: 05 November 2018 by Nick Lees
Volker posted:

Is there any good UPnP app for Windows? Might be an easier way than emulating Android. But I didn't find one so far - BubbleUPnP & Co don't seem to exist for Windows. But maybe someone here knows one?

Linn Kazoo works in Windows 10 and can control Naim gear as well as Qobuz, Tidal, via BubbleUPnP server. It’s in the Windows App Store thingy.

Posted on: 05 November 2018 by Peter1480

I would n't recommend Kazoo for windows its very buggy but its always worth a try it may work for you. It never finds Asset for me.

Posted on: 05 November 2018 by John Byrne

I tried Kazoo after Bluestacks wouldn't find my rooms but it looked like Kazoo only expects Linn products. How do I tell it to find my naim rooms?

Posted on: 05 November 2018 by John Byrne

tried again and can't get Kazoo to find any naim streamers

Posted on: 06 November 2018 by Volker

Thanks Peter and Nick! 

Posted on: 06 November 2018 by Nick Lees
John Byrne posted:

I tried Kazoo after Bluestacks wouldn't find my rooms but it looked like Kazoo only expects Linn products. How do I tell it to find my naim rooms?

Kazoo (both Windows and iOS versions) finds my NDX because it's working off BubbleUpNP Server on my Synology that treats the NDX as an Openhome front end. I use it for Qobuz access otherwise I use the Naim app alongside it.

Posted on: 06 November 2018 by Bart

Another benefit of my migration to Roon is that they have an OS X app and I can control from laptop or phone or iPad...and unlike the Naim app Roon is happy to have multiple app instances connected at once - you can have music wars with your spouse and friends!

Posted on: 06 November 2018 by PG

You could try Linn Kinsky. I've occassionally used on my Mac and it controlled my Naim equipment, but it certainly wasn't perfect.

 

Posted on: 06 November 2018 by John Byrne

PG, How did you manage to get Kinsky to detect your Naim equipment?

Posted on: 06 November 2018 by Hmack
Peter1480 posted:

I would n't recommend Kazoo for windows its very buggy but its always worth a try it may work for you. It never finds Asset for me.

Lin Kazoo for Windows is absolutely bullet-proof with my Linn Klimax streamer (and minimserver on my Synology NAS), but doesn't find my Naim Muso Qb. 

Posted on: 06 November 2018 by Flo-TLSC

Two more you could try are: dBPoweramp 'Asset control' and Audionet 'Remote control point'. Audionet RCP comes as desktop apps for Windows and Mac. For iphone and android they are called iMM and aMM.

Good luck

Posted on: 07 November 2018 by Peter1480
Flo-TLSC posted:

Two more you could try are: dBPoweramp 'Asset control' and Audionet 'Remote control point'. Audionet RCP comes as desktop apps for Windows and Mac. For iphone and android they are called iMM and aMM.

Good luck

 

Asset control is good but they are nolonger actively developing it, pitty Naim could n't take it on. I find Audionet RCP sometimes fails to find tracks or reports errors.

Posted on: 07 November 2018 by Flo-TLSC

Yep I agree Peter, nothing beats the NAIM App running on an Android emulator.