How do Naim users listen to unsupported Subscription Music Services such as Primephonic, Qubuz, Iomega and others??

Some including me use BubbleUPnP Server running on a micro server like a consumer NAS or RaspberryPi to act as UPnP proxy to play Qobuz and Tidal on our Naim streamers... search the forum you will see instructions and references. Currently gapless via this method is only working on the Naim legacy streamers and not the recent new architecture streamers, but I believe Naim are on the case.

The new generation Naim streamers support Chromecast and Airplay, whch gives the option of streaming from a wide variety of internet sources. This gives options for lossless streaming, although I’m not sure that they’re up to the same standard as local streaming or CD playback. 

Simon’s suggestion of using BubbleUPnP server is good for Tidal and Qobuz, but you still need a UPnP streamer to play it. 

Echolane - just plug your laptop into your DAC and get a free trial of Qobuz, it’ll cost you nothing apart from a couple of quid in a USB cable,  and will let you enjoy it’s huge catalogue. The Windows or OS x apps are fine. It’s a wonderful service if, like me, you like classical music.  Then, if you decide it is for you, you can look at more convenient options. But with the stuff you’ve got you could be listening in ten minutes.

likesmusic posted:

Echolane - just plug your laptop into your DAC and get a free trial of Qobuz, it’ll cost you nothing apart from a couple of quid in a USB cable,  and will let you enjoy it’s huge catalogue. The Windows or OS x apps are fine. It’s a wonderful service if, like me, you like classical music.  Then, if you decide it is for you, you can look at more convenient options. But with the stuff you’ve got you could be listening in ten minutes.

Boo boo, no laptop, just an iPad.

I looked up UPnP streamers and got a long list of possibilities, but it’s not obvious how to go on from there.  

For example, just picking one, Universal Media Server sounds like it would serve  to my OPPO UDP-205 BluRay Player.  Do I install it on my Windows Desktop Computers and it will find any DLNA/UPnP capable players?  The Naim Uniti Core is also  UPnP compliant, yes?  In which case I could stream to it too?  

And then, if I subscribe to Qubuz, for example, Universal Media Server integrates with Qubuz?

Echolane posted:

 

I looked up UPnP streamers and got a long list of possibilities, but it’s not obvious how to go on from there.  

For example, just picking one, Universal Media Server sounds like it would serve  to my OPPO UDP-205 BluRay Player.  Do I install it on my Windows Desktop Computers and it will find any DLNA/UPnP capable players?  The Naim Uniti Core is also  UPnP compliant, yes?  In which case I could stream to it too?  

And then, if I subscribe to Qubuz, for example, Universal Media Server integrates with Qubuz?

The Uniti Core is a UPnP server that can send stored music files to a UPnP streamer. You cannot send a stream to it. 

Popular music servers to run on a computer or NAS, would be Asset or Minimserver as an alternative to the Uniti Core. 

These servers are intended to stream music from your own storage to a streamer. Simon’s BubbleUPnP suggestion is a slightly unusual, but effective workaround that sends a web stream to a streamer as if it were a local stream. 

Echolane posted:

likesmusic posted:

Echolane - just plug your laptop into your DAC and get a free trial of Qobuz, it’ll cost you nothing apart from a couple of quid in a USB cable,  and will let you enjoy it’s huge catalogue. The Windows or OS x apps are fine. It’s a wonderful service if, like me, you like classical music.  Then, if you decide it is for you, you can look at more convenient options. But with the stuff you’ve got you could be listening in ten minutes.

Boo boo, no laptop, just an iPad.

You should still be able to do it with a camera connection kit, depending on your iPad. If you have a desktop in another bit of your house, I think a Chromecast Audio would also give you at least cd quality streaming. I was just trying to suggest a minimally expensive way of giving Qobuz a try.

Echolane, if you have an iPad, you can use Qobuz’s own replay app.. some of the iPads have great audio.. I feed my iPad into a valve headphone amp and a pair of Sennheisers and it sounds pretty good.

I’d second that. Until recently i was using  the Qobuz app on my iPad to stream to my Chord Mojo DAC and from there to one of the Aux inputs on my NAC 282. The sound quality was was very respectable. Admittedly the sound quality was down to the DAC but the point is that an iPad can be employed in the right setup to get decent sound quality.

Simon-in-Suffolk posted:

Echolane, if you have an iPad, you can use Qobuz’s own replay app.. some of the iPads have great audio.. I feed my iPad into a valve headphone amp and a pair of Sennheisers and it sounds pretty good.

I have a set of headphones to use with my iPad.  I don’t enjoy listening that way, but I can certainly give it a try.  I don’t have a feel for a long term solution though.  Both my desktops are suitable short term listening sites but in neither case is  there comfortable seating for enjoyable listening.

I wish I could understand why Naim wouldn’t be eager to include these subscription services as an added benefit to owning Naim.

If you have the right inputs on your system, you could use a 3rd generation Apple TV with the optical output into your amp and stream from the iPad using Airplay. There are probably other AIrplay interfaces too?

I have Tidal and Qobuz. Qobuz I never use as I find that in the cases I want Tidal has a quite good coverage. I used to play over my Sony Walkman, however my current one doesn’t support WiFi anymore, so in case I play it’s through the computer right iPhone. I also don’t feel the urge as I have over 600gb of music in my pocket.