Improvements you would like to see from Naim in 2019
Posted by: Camlan on 31 December 2018
To start the ball rolling, I would love to see bubbleupnp integration in either the app or the servers to save using Lumin/Kazoo to access Qobuz.
peterks posted:Clive B posted:I'd like to see a solution to the artwork freeze on the ND555. Although I have the display turned off most of the time, it seems pointless having a display screen if it doesn't show the correct image for the album playing. I realise it can be fixed by powering off and on again, but it shouldn't be like this on a £13,000 streamer.
I concur.
Not that it’s of any comfort, but I am experiencing artwork freeze on my Uniti Atom, too.
Appears to be occuring more often when using inputs like Spotify, Tidal and AirPlay, but I have yet to discover a repeatable pattern. With Internet radio and UPnP there can be weeks between the artwork freezes ...
Indeed, I still continue to have album art randomly but regularly freezing on The Atom.
The Core is a server. So it will have this function. It's not a function of the Naim app.
Stevee_S posted:peterks posted:Clive B posted:I'd like to see a solution to the artwork freeze on the ND555. Although I have the display turned off most of the time, it seems pointless having a display screen if it doesn't show the correct image for the album playing. I realise it can be fixed by powering off and on again, but it shouldn't be like this on a £13,000 streamer.
I concur.
Not that it’s of any comfort, but I am experiencing artwork freeze on my Uniti Atom, too.
Appears to be occuring more often when using inputs like Spotify, Tidal and AirPlay, but I have yet to discover a repeatable pattern. With Internet radio and UPnP there can be weeks between the artwork freezes ...
Indeed, I still continue to have album art randomly but regularly freezing on The Atom.
On the Nova a software update solved this problem a while ago.
fred47 posted:Stevee_S posted:peterks posted:Clive B posted:I'd like to see a solution to the artwork freeze on the ND555. Although I have the display turned off most of the time, it seems pointless having a display screen if it doesn't show the correct image for the album playing. I realise it can be fixed by powering off and on again, but it shouldn't be like this on a £13,000 streamer.
I concur.
Not that it’s of any comfort, but I am experiencing artwork freeze on my Uniti Atom, too.
Appears to be occuring more often when using inputs like Spotify, Tidal and AirPlay, but I have yet to discover a repeatable pattern. With Internet radio and UPnP there can be weeks between the artwork freezes ...
Indeed, I still continue to have album art randomly but regularly freezing on The Atom.
On the Nova a software update solved this problem a while ago.
I only use the ND555 to stream from my NS01 server; I do not subscribe to either Spotify or Tidal. Hence, given that I have just experienced my fourth freeze in about nine weeks, I suppose it occurs roughly fortnightly on UPnP for me, but that could be dependent not just on type of usage, but also frequency.
Harry posted:The Core is a server. So it will have this function. It's not a function of the Naim app.
But people are seeing the list through the Naim app, so it must be an enabled facility of the app. I can see the last 20 entries in the 'Newest CDs' folder in the app and the DTC. In n-Serve I can see the last 100 entries.
Clive B posted:fred47 posted:Stevee_S posted:peterks posted:Clive B posted:I'd like to see a solution to the artwork freeze on the ND555. Although I have the display turned off most of the time, it seems pointless having a display screen if it doesn't show the correct image for the album playing. I realise it can be fixed by powering off and on again, but it shouldn't be like this on a £13,000 streamer.
I concur.
Not that it’s of any comfort, but I am experiencing artwork freeze on my Uniti Atom, too.
Appears to be occuring more often when using inputs like Spotify, Tidal and AirPlay, but I have yet to discover a repeatable pattern. With Internet radio and UPnP there can be weeks between the artwork freezes ...
Indeed, I still continue to have album art randomly but regularly freezing on The Atom.
On the Nova a software update solved this problem a while ago.
I only use the ND555 to stream from my NS01 server; I do not subscribe to either Spotify or Tidal. Hence, given that I have just experienced my fourth freeze in about nine weeks, I suppose it occurs roughly fortnightly on UPnP for me, but that could be dependent not just on type of usage, but also frequency.
Clive, I had much the same screen freezing on occasions but only when using UNnp never when using Radio or Tidal.
Naim were made aware of the problem and a Beta Firmware update seems to have cured the problem.
Then, assuming it doesn't introduce any undesirables, I look forward to it being made available to the rank and file!
If the server is configured to display recent additions the app will pick it up and make it available as a search. You can't ask the app to display something if the server doesn't pass it to the app.
Simon-in-Suffolk posted:Sloop John B posted:It seems that Naim have done a very good job of isolating Ethernet issues on the way to the DAC in the new streamers. So a “network bridge” type product would interest me as I like to be agnostic from a DAC point of view but would like a Naim option to get to the DAC of my choice.
It’s called a router configured with specific forwarders/helpers, PIM and IGMP... a bridge will provide no Ethernet benefit at all..
I think SJB wants a Uniti or new ND style streamer-only product here: Ethernet in, digital out... no DAC, no amp, no other wired/optical inputs or switching.
The (perhaps misleading?) “Ethernet Bridge” name he gave it might be more analogous to a “UPnP Bridge” or a “Roon Bridge”, which sits on the network (Ethernet or WiFi) and provides all of the streaming source selection, etc., from whichever local library (NAS, external USB, mounted volume of some sort), local device input (AirPlay, Chromecast, Bluetooth, etc.) or online service (Spotify, Tidal, Quobuz) you like, and provides a really amazing “perfectly conditioned” digital signal to whatever DAC and amplification chain you like.
I’m guessing he’d like a top notch, Naim level box that would be visible in the Naim (or other control) app, and be a drop in replacement for a Chromecast Audio, an Allo DigiOne, or a BlueSound Node.
Not all that different, I suppose, from the folks wishing that the Core had a full suite of streamer capabilities, rather than being “just” a pure audio file server with both Ethernet and direct digital outs: if it had Ethernet only, it’s more clearly positioned as a server; since it has digital also, the decision to skip every other network service is harder to understand and accept. (Edit: or, since he’s not asking for ripping or database management functions, more like an ND555 or whatever, but without the built-in DAC...)
Not a “real” network bridge in the sense you are thinking, Simon... at least IMHO.
Regards alan
Well that is a streamer transport I believe... that is Ethernet and or USB in and SPDIF out
An update to the app that I would like to see is the ability to simply browse and search all internet radio stations. Rather than have to select a specific genre or location. I like to flip around and select different stations or if I know the exact station I want rather than have to go to the location then search for it. Just add the "All Stations" up to the top level of the menu.
One other update I would like to see is adding the ability to download/backup your presets so that if you move from one uniti product to another you can backup/export and restore/import the presets.
Make the core a Roon server..
AirPlay 2 on Nova
A new forum
Bob the Builder posted:A new forum
Which came first, your wish, or an actual new forum?
Bob the Builder posted:A new forum
And who said wishes never come true!?
Simon-in-Suffolk posted:Well that is a streamer transport I believe... that is Ethernet and or USB in and SPDIF out
Yes, something like an NDX2 without a DAC and with high quality SPDIF and USB outputs. The device would be a Naim alternative to Sonore's ultraRendu, SoTM's sMs-200ultra, dCS' Network Bridge, Allo's DigiOnes and USBridge, etc.
It maybe been said, but an internal DR upgrade possibility to the now discountinied Naim Dac.
Anders, it would need to be a complete reworking as the 1704k dac chipset is obsolete and those in stock are needed for the ND555 and future servicing. Steve Sells in his ND555 white paper said it would most likely be their last use in a new product. So it would need to be something like the 1792 chipset used in the NDX2, or something completely different. I hope they do bring out a stand alone DAC, but I somehow doubt they will.
Anders in småland posted:It maybe been said, but an internal DR upgrade possibility to the now discountinied Naim Dac.
You can achieve the DR benefit by adding an external DR equipped (XPS, 555PS) PSU. IIRC only the DSP section still gets powered by the internal DAC PSU when an external supply is connected.
james n posted:Anders in småland posted:It maybe been said, but an internal DR upgrade possibility to the now discountinied Naim Dac.
You can achieve the DR benefit by adding an external DR equipped (XPS, 555PS) PSU. IIRC only the DSP section still gets powered by the internal DAC PSU when an external supply is connected.
I know, but fewer boxes is nice????.
Gazza posted:Anders, it would need to be a complete reworking as the 1704k dac chipset is obsolete and those in stock are needed for the ND555 and future servicing. Steve Sells in his ND555 white paper said it would most likely be their last use in a new product. So it would need to be something like the 1792 chipset used in the NDX2, or something completely different. I hope they do bring out a stand alone DAC, but I somehow doubt they will.
Ok. But the chips that already are in existing dacs wont be damaged I suspect if Naim take the existing dacs and rebuild the powersection.
I think as mentioned before they chose not to DR the NDac, hoping people would buy a separate DR power supply
Anders in småland posted:Gazza posted:Anders, it would need to be a complete reworking as the 1704k dac chipset is obsolete and those in stock are needed for the ND555 and future servicing. Steve Sells in his ND555 white paper said it would most likely be their last use in a new product. So it would need to be something like the 1792 chipset used in the NDX2, or something completely different. I hope they do bring out a stand alone DAC, but I somehow doubt they will.
Ok. But the chips that already are in existing dacs wont be damaged I suspect if Naim take the existing dacs and rebuild the powersection.
Anders - If the Naim DAC had a separate power board that contained the regulator section which could just be replaced then it may have been more of a possibility. You've got the usual sprinkling of LM317/337 devices on the main board for first stage regulation so adding DR modules here would be quite a modification - I don't see Naim doing this on a legacy product. External PS (sorry about the box count) upgrade is the way to go here.
james n posted:Anders in småland posted:Gazza posted:Anders, it would need to be a complete reworking as the 1704k dac chipset is obsolete and those in stock are needed for the ND555 and future servicing. Steve Sells in his ND555 white paper said it would most likely be their last use in a new product. So it would need to be something like the 1792 chipset used in the NDX2, or something completely different. I hope they do bring out a stand alone DAC, but I somehow doubt they will.
Ok. But the chips that already are in existing dacs wont be damaged I suspect if Naim take the existing dacs and rebuild the powersection.
Anders - If the Naim DAC had a separate power board that contained the regulator section which could just be replaced then it may have been more of a possibility. You've got the usual sprinkling of LM317/337 devices on the main board for first stage regulation so adding DR modules here would be quite a modification - I don't see Naim doing this on a legacy product. External PS (sorry about the box count) upgrade is the way to go here.
Good points but I would not buy an external DR PS for my nDAC at this point unless Naim provided indications that that PS is going to be usable with an upcoming nDAC successor. The same holds for a SL interconnect: a PS555DR and a DIN-DIN SL cost together about 10k EUR. Such an investment makes sense only in the perspective of a nDAC successor, in my view.