The end of moon landing conspiracy theories?

There will always be hoax-believers with the "yeah but...."

Just as with those who believe G.W. Bush planned and executed 9/11.

Or that the snow speeders in Empire Strikes Back were actually models controlled with wires!

I give you photo shop. 

I did wonder that as well but the originals are easily found and checked.

Jono

Jono, you mean the original sets that Kubrik used to film Armstrong's leap for mankind? I think they were used by Gerry Anderson's Space: 1999 and subsequently discarded

Not quite.

I doubt that NASA encrypts the image data so anyone with a bit of skill can grab the images as well, BUT the doubters will always want to poke holes in stuff like this.

I watched it live at the time, only 7 years old back then, and still struggle to believe it really happened.

I have stood beside a Saturn 5 in Huntsville, AL and if anything could get you to the moon then one of those big boys could.

Huntsville is a strange place mind. Having the Von Braun civic centre is a bit unsettling for someone who's grandmother had a V2 land nearby in late '44/early '45.

Jono

I don't think that many 9/11 conspiracy theorists believe G.W.Bush was capable of planning anything more complicated than a dinner party. Certainly very few conspiracy theorists think he had anything to do with it at all. Personally I don't know if 9/11 was an 'inside job' or partly an inside job or exactly as the official versions maintains but there is enough evidense to make any sensible person pause for thought. A detailed study of the claims and counter claims would be a full time study for several years. In the absense of that kind of commitment people belive what they want to believe.

The danger with conspiracy theories is that they often contain a few grains of truth and logic/reason. For gullible people, this can be taken as "proof" that the theory must be true, however bizarre, because part of what is claimed is demonstrably true or reasonable - therfore they will reason that it must all be true. In the case of the Apollo moon landings, one could quite reasonably question why, when the technology and know-how existed 40 years ago to place a manned spacecraft on the moon, so little progress has been achieved since in space travel? Huge advances have been made in the last 40 years in computers, electronics, engineering etc. The world has changed completely - I could not be writing this post here 40 years ago, the technology didn't exist! So what has happened to all that vast know-how that existed in the US 40 years ago? Why has it not been very significantly expanded and built on, why have we not yet managed to place a manned spacecraft on Mars with relative ease, as might have been reasonably expected long before now? These are all valid and somewhat perplexing questions. If I were a conspiracy theorist I would say "Perhaps the technology to achieve a moon landing did not really exist 40 years ago at all. Perhaps it was all faked." The truth is that there are much more mundane explanations. Political, economic etc. etc. But gullible people will always be around to claim differently.

Peter

Not come on much it's all about the  $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

If there was a point to made ie beating the Ruskies then they would be mowing the Martian lawns now.

The Apollo moon landings generated less and less publicity and after Apollo 17 there was not much of a political or public incentive to continue with the moon landings. All energy was diverted to the idea of a space station in Earth's orbit and an orbiter that could take astronauts to and from the base. With the Space Shuttle programme, NASA consciously put the moon and mars out of scope.

Trouble with space travel is distance and speed.

In order to go anywhere in a reasonable amount of time we need to travel several million times the speed of light.

Until then we are going as far as the frontdoor with regards to space travel.

So i really was glued to the tv with the moon landings and still find it amazing.

But Star Trek is a very very long time away.

David

Hmmm, we're getting closer

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pa...pacecraft/index.html

Well, in web page you linked to there was also this:

http://www.cosmicfingerprints.com/god-of-the-bible/

which is weirder, for me, than any conspiracy theory.

“The First Church of Christ of the Big Bang”

Apparently scientists are joining this. Pity Prof Brian doesn't seem to be about these days.

As scientists get closer to discovering that the big bang wasn't the start of everything, they'll invent some other theory to disprove the existence of God.

Cheers

Don

Tom

Brian left many years ago, along with all the evidence that he ever existed here.

I don't think we were very nice to him, which is a pity really, he appears to be a nice person.

I imagine he felt a bit out of his depth here, struggling with the sort of peer-review that any sane person is subjected to when presenting a well-researched piece of science to this august body of know-it-alls.

Cheers

Don

He last posted in December 2008 but was logged on in January this year. I don't remember us being not nice to him. The very opposite in fact. However I guess he's a busy guy these days.

Oh, it seemed to me he had departed ages ago.

It also appeared as if all his posts had gone, but i'd be happy to be wrong on that account too.

I have a vague (and probably incorrect) impression that some of his posts were aggressivly challenged on the forum, and again am very happy to hear that is not a widely held recollection. When I say "aggressively" I don't imply there was much substance in the challenges, just the usual mix of trolling and posturing mixed with a few choice words. But my recollection on this episode of the forum seems to be totally wrong - thank goodness.

It would be really nice to see him back on the forum.

Cheers

Don

Don,

His posts are all still there. Search for drbri. I checked because I'm a real fan and didn't like the idea that he had not been treated courteously here.  I remembered one instance where he corrected some nonsense that had been posted and was asked who the hell he thought he was and why did he think he was qualified to comment. A quick resume of his current work was enough to put things right. It was all quite tongue in cheek as far as I remember. This was of course before he became a superstar.

It would be nice to see him back though.

Thanks Tom,

Cheers

Don