Audiosafe

Posted by: David on 16 October 2011

Is anyone using Mr Spoon's on line Audiosafe backup service?


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Posted on: 16 October 2011 by Nagoya

I'm not using it but I had spotted it, too. Looks good but I wonder how much it would cost if you needed to restore your music files? I couldn't see any mention of this. Thanks!

Posted on: 16 October 2011 by garyi

Always worth checking you service provider. On my agreement with virgin for instance I can upload to their back up service as much as I like.

 

Never have though, its all backed up to a spare drive which is taken off site. 

 

IF they are only charging to restore then its gonna be expensive otherwise their business model will fail spectacularly.

Posted on: 16 October 2011 by Mr Underhill
Originally Posted by garyi:

 

Never have though, its all backed up to a spare drive which is taken off site. 

+1

Posted on: 17 October 2011 by mrspoon
Originally Posted by garyi:

IF they are only charging to restore then its gonna be expensive otherwise their business model will fail spectacularly.

 

Bandwidth is quite cheap these days, and gets cheaper as time goes by. We are toying with the cost of $10 to $25 per 100GB of restore. A full decision will be taken on release from beta (which is around December).

 

My personal audio collection is around 100GB, so $10 for a restore is way cheaper than a USB HDD. It is the convenience factor also, having a USB HDD and taking it offsite is not that convenient, where as a simple program you install and forget about, is.

Posted on: 17 October 2011 by garyi
Their business will ail then. Bandwidth might be cheap, but they ave to store your daa somehere. Presumably on them expensive harddrives you were on about.

Its your data, do as you will. Personally, i like the knoledge that my 1.5tb drive is in a known location,, under my control and it was only 40quid. Use a hot swap hd caddy and it really is rather simple.
Posted on: 18 October 2011 by likesmusic

I've been using Carbonite for online backup of our pcs, including my music library, with absolutely superb results. It keeps multiple versions of files, which can be very handy. I've lost hard drives on laptops twice, but got up an running on new or repaired pcs really easily due to the Carbonite backup. It does take a while to upload, and throttles back after the first 200GB, but they genuinely don't limit the amount of data you can backup so are a fraction of the price of companies like Amazon. Have to say I'm very pleased with it. 

Posted on: 18 October 2011 by mrspoon
Originally Posted by garyi:
Their business will ail then. Bandwidth might be cheap, but they ave to store your daa somehere. Presumably on them expensive harddrives you were on about.

Audio de-duplicates very well (if you have the expertise)..., plus audiosafe is going to be the cornerstone of additional services, such as an automatic album art corrector, tag correction, AccurateRip v3. These 3 are very important to us, so even if AudioSafe was to bleed cash (I do not think it will with the expected 1 million users), it will still operate for the next 5-10 years, because it is important.

 

Currently 2% of the worlds audio is stored on audiosafe, which is quite impressive as it has only operated in beta for the last 2 months.

Posted on: 18 October 2011 by Hook
Originally Posted by mrspoon:

       

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Originally Posted by garyi:
Their business will ail then. Bandwidth might be cheap, but they ave to store your daa somehere. Presumably on them expensive harddrives you were on about.

Audio de-duplicates very well (if you have the expertise)..., plus audiosafe is going to be the cornerstone of additional services, such as an automatic album art corrector, tag correction, AccurateRip v3. These 3 are very important to us, so even if AudioSafe was to bleed cash (I do not think it will with the expected 1 million users), it will still operate for the next 5-10 years, because it is important.

 

Currently 2% of the worlds audio is stored on audiosafe, which is quite impressive as it has only operated in beta for the last 2 months.




Congrats Mr. Spoon.  So now that Audiosafe is well on it's way, do you have any plans to port Asset to Linux (so that it can be purchased and installed directly on NAS devices)?

Thanks!

Hook
Posted on: 19 October 2011 by likesmusic
Originally Posted by mrspoon:
Audio de-duplicates very well (if you have the expertise)..., 

lol - i bet it does, especially from the hi-fi community. 

Posted on: 19 October 2011 by mrspoon

There is a good chance of asset appearing on Linux

Posted on: 19 October 2011 by Peter_RN

Excellent if you get round to doing this mrspoon. I would install it on my NAS without hesitation. Thanks for a great product range.

 

Peter

Posted on: 19 October 2011 by Hook
Originally Posted by mrspoon:

There is a good chance of asset appearing on Linux

 

Thanks Mr Spoon -- this is really good news!

 

Asset has been so rock-solid for many of us here on the Naim forum.  The only downside has been that, given there are so few WHS choices in the NAS world, many of us are doing the "double hop", and using a separate laptop or PC server just to run Asset.  It works, but loading on to a NAS would certainly help to optimize network traffic.

 

Hook

 

PS - Congrats on the success of your entire Illustrate product line -- dbpoweramp and Music Converter are both top drawer IME!   Thanks again.

Posted on: 19 October 2011 by BigH47

From the comments made here does MrSpoon need a different designation? 

Posted on: 19 October 2011 by Nagoya

AS sounds great but probably a little expensive if you have a large collection. But I can't fathom how you can calculate it having 2% of world audio. Can you say more on this, please? Thanks!

Posted on: 19 October 2011 by likesmusic

Nagoya - I guess it is to do with redundancy and deduplicating. For example, according to one link I found 326 million albums were sold in 2010, 13 of them million sellers. 13 million out of 326 million is about 4%. Yet mrspoon (or you or I) only needs to store those 13 albums once to be able to claim that he has 4% of 2010s music stored. He doesn't need to store a million copies of those albums - just one will do. He probably has to be a bit smarter with tags, and those of his customers who have overriden the standard tags and artwork and how. Just guessing ..

Posted on: 19 October 2011 by Tog

Asset on Fedora - Vortexbox users would be interested.

 

Tog

Posted on: 19 October 2011 by mrspoon

We have over 1/4 of a million unique lossless tracks stored on AS right now.

 

Using AccurateRip and the various disc meta databases, it is an educated guess there are about 2 to 3 million unique discs out there, the same track might appear on multiple discs though.

 

Posted on: 18 April 2013 by adca

Bad news taken from the dbpoweramp forum re audiosafe:

"Notice of Termination of Service
Sadly we have to give notice of termination of AudioSAFE, this will happen in or shorly after August 2013.
The concept was sound, sadly uptake in beta was not enough."

adca

Posted on: 18 April 2013 by likesmusic

There's a crowd sourced kickstarter project reaching delivery called spacemonkey that might be interesting. You get a 1TB networked hard-drive that does a local backup of all your stuff (fast) and then (so they say) uses hundreds of similar spacemonkey drives to store encrypted fragments of your data. Kinda distributed cloud. If it works it would be a lot cheaper than many alternatives.

Posted on: 18 April 2013 by Claus-Thoegersen

My off site backup seems to fall  apart these days. Symform on Readynas stopped working for several Duo users, and no answer on there forum why or how to correct itd, and now  audioUnsafe also. I really  liked these  off site automated solutions.

Hopefully Symform will work again soon.

Claus

Posted on: 18 April 2013 by Bart

"Solutions" is the key. With the business model so tenuous I hesitate to call any of them solutions!

 

"Hope is not a plan," I like to say.