Post your experience on Reissue Vinyl quality!

Thats what i had on the six,

They used to come through  but not this time.

I also ordered two Ryan Adams albums ,They took the orders put the price up  on the site within 24 hours.

I rang them after three weeks,  they said we have a 150 coming in within a few days and you will get yours at the price you ordered them for.

I got a mail last week saying we cant get them.

Stu.

Call Acoustic Sounds and see what their shipping policy is to the UK. Maybe you all could do a group order, or even negotiate a forum discount. I can't say enough about their customer service, and really wouldn't be surprised if they'd work something out on shipping. I know Steve J mentioned shipping to family in US.

Tons of Miles Davis coming out:

Re Miles Davis from Analogue Productions - I haven't heard any of them. (Acoustic Sounds is their retail arm, much like Music Direct is for MOFI)  They've done Prestige 33 1/3rpm stereo, now 45 stereo and it says "pre order" for the 33 mono. "For sale individually and as part of Analogue Productions’ Prestige Mono Series." Anyone for getting one version of the 45 and mono and comparing notes?

I just looked, and IMPEX has released Friday and Saturday Night at the Blackhawk. Classic Records Kind of Blue is still available via Acoustic Sounds, and MOFI is releasing Kind of Blue, Round Midnight, In A Silent Way.

I have the Mosaic box sets of Black Hawk and Miles & Coltrane, which includes Kind of Blue. They still make me weep they are so good. Not a lot of motivation to get another pressing other than to save the Mosaic boxes for special occasions. Hmm.

Stay Tuned!

I hit Acoustic sounds emails on the head.

To much hard sell imo.

I dont bother with MOFI anymore not good enough for the money they want.

Even if they were $5 each i would not bother.

I can get friends to send me albums from the usa if there is anything i want.

I am very choosey these days.

Most of these remasters are to quiet for me

The life has been sucked out of them.

Or they go the other way and there is to much life in them it hurts ones ears.

Good originals is where its at ,except for a few imo..

Stu

Originally Posted by Richard Dane: But Kuma, it says "audiophile quality" on the label...

Reissued end of last year AFAIK.  Agree, it's a gamble, but I've pulled the trigger on it (only a tenner at HMV right now) and will post my thoughts here once I get it and give it a spin.

Richard,

"audiophile quality" my arse.

Let us know when you get it.

But when a good original is too costly due to a silly collector's value, or when some are so hard to find in good quiet condition, decent reissues come in handy.

I now approach any new reissues with caution as chance of them sounding better than the original, indeed, is very rare. 

Except that if I don't have an original to compare, few of these releases are not terrible. ( Mozart pieces  above are case in point )

And those Analogue Production Jazz records are very competitive to the originals when i listened both side by side. ( albeit it could be title dependent )

The problem is that Im so ODed on Miles or 'Trane.

Why wouldn't they release a few Erroll Garner, for instance~

Out of Impex's upcoming release, I would def. try Ellington's Indigo. I've a mono original 6 eyes but not in a good shape. ( my *dead* neighbour tossed all inners! )

I've a feeling their stereo release will have a bit of *ping pong* effect as their Brubeck's Time Further Out stereo release, but will see...

Thanks Stu.  Not entirely encouraging...

Kuma,

I get your point.

I am not a great classical music listener.

I have quite a few classical vinyl albums most have been bought from local charity shops.

When some one pops his clogs here his family gives his life's vinyl collection to a charity shop.

Most are in mint as new condition because they have been loved and looked after.

They have so many they cant sell and for £5 you can pick up lots of good albums.

There have been times when they have said to me, give us a donation and you can have the lot, 200 or more DG/EMI albums.

Some times they have even said just take them away for free, because they need the room for stuff that will sell.

I just don't have the room to store them,and would never play most of them. 

Its a shame because after a few weeks if they have not sold they go to the local tip/dump

Stu.

Mutterback:

I had the Analogue Productions Miles Davis box set, which had those titles. I sold it. Analogue Productions has a talent for sucking all the life out of recording. I avoid their reissues.

Jay 

If they come from Analogue Productions, no doubt. And very often others as well. I suppose that is the purpose of this thread -- to note the good ones and the bad ones. But some of us disagree on which are which from time to time.

Jay,

I agree thats what this thread is all about..

I am just not a great fan of some/most of Steve Hoffs work to be honest.

I can remember the day when the AR man from Island Records called into my work place after getting off the plane,

On his way back to his office with the cassette and 12"  tapes of a band no one in the uk had ever heard of at the time.

Saying this band is going to be BIG.

I copied the cassette and the 12"on a Revox

They went on to be massive.

I bought the LP Record when it came out, Wonderful.

I went for it last year and bought a Hoff vinyl copy because it was cheap.

Its nice and quiet but has no life in it.

The band Was and is the B-52s

Stu.

Do any of you have any thoughts on the best vinyl pressing of this album?

Mine is shagged .

As was my original copy that i borrowed from a good friend and never gave back along with High way 61.

Not my fault.

She moved.

She has not held it against me though.

Stu.

Jay,

Which ones replaced those AP sets then?

I havne't heard all of their releases but the ones I have heard particularly their 45 rpm ones are hard to beat.

It might be that they are title dependent. 

Have you listened to their Herbie Hancock's Maiden Voyage 45 rpm release?

I think that's excellent albeit I don't have the original pressing. 

What other AP pressing you tried and didn't care for? ( so that I can avoid those in the future. )

Which Hoffman remastered B52 record is it?

I've had a few jazz ones. I had the Miles Davis and Thelonious Monk box sets, I had Bill Evans, Waltz for Debby, and some others. I have sold them and not bough more. Every one is awful. They have a nice clear sound, which is why audiophiles like them, but no soul, swing, etc. I suppose if you were playing them on some Goldmund Reference or the like with an SME tonearm, you might not even notice the difference.

Bring Maiden Voyage when you are next out at David's. I have a later pressing Blue Note. We can compare.

Stu:

I am not a huge fan of Steve Hoffman either. I don't really like the DCCs everyone raves about. I do like his forum though. And his recent remaster of Kate Bush Hounds of Love seemed ok.

On the other hand, the Music Matters Blue Note reissues in which he had some involvement sound great. A real mystery is why Analogue Productions, who use the same engineers and lab, have everything sound shite.

Jay

Jay ,

Do you like Ryan Adams and Laura Marling?

Stu.

There first one was the one i had the tapes of.

Stu.

Stu:

I have heard of them but never heard them.

Jay 

Their is a tv chan over here in the uk called Chan 4.

The prog is called live at Abbey road sessions

They were both playing together.

Laura was singing/playing on Ryans tracks and he was doing the same on hers.

He made my day when he said ,

I signed to a record company with my band ,They had us signed up for nine albums.

The fun went out of making music,so i just turned it out after the first 4.

Pro-Tools was coming in at that time.

I hate Pro-Tools.

There will never ever be a computer anywhere near my  music .

Ryan.

You can see the sessions on ytube.

Denis posted some links on here a couple of weeks ago,

Stu

Thanks Jay.

I am afraid I haven't heard any of those AP pressings. ( irony I have many of those AP 45s Bill Evans but not Waltz for Debby )

The ones I do have, I have compared them to the 33 rpm reissue. ( 90s reissues with bar codes which are not as good as other earlier reissues ) I haven't even seen any of the original pressing at the local store. The OJC's 1982 US reissue 'New Jazz Conceptions'  WITHOUT the bar code ( OJC-025, RLP-223) sounds great, tho!

Curious about their new AP 45 reissue on this but forget it, I am not getting up to flip records that often. ( my 45 rpm buying days are over )

Wow! Early Stamper Original?
The AP 45 pressing so far sounds the most natural and gives an excellent presence to the performer compared to 80s & 90s US reissue as well as Japanese pressing. More life to me as the rest just sounded mechanical comparatively.

Could you be a little more specific? What is the name of Record label for the *lifeless* reissue?

There is also a recent MOFI Silver Label reissue of the same record. But you don't mean this right?

I can almost guess that this one above will be "all-dressed-up-but-nowhere-to-go" :x

Are they remastering the same titles?

If so, would be interesting to compare.

The same engineers and the lab? 

Well then I'd reckon whomever get to work with well preserved original analogue master tape win, then.

kuma,

If he has done it once it begs ??Why twice?

Money?

I  will have a look later to day on the racks,I don't do hight that well at the mo.

I did find two Joy Division 180g remasters while looking up though.

Unknown Pleasures and CLOSER both on London records.

Stu.

Hi Kuma, Jay and Stu,

I've been reading the posts from overnight and have been getting deja vu, this area was discussed earlier in the thread. We all know of Jays distaste of AP's output but I must say I've yet to have a bad one. I know a lot of people aren't keen on the 45rpm format because of frequent changing of LPs but the AP versions I have of Somethin' Else, A Love Supreme and Getz/Gilberto amongst others have been superb. As for the Hoffmann Fleetwood Mac 45rpm remaster of Rumours it is nothing short of mind blowing. Many people on this forum have commented on how good this is on other threads. The CCR Hoff reissues are similarly good. 

I'm currently listening to CJ & The Fish 'Electric Music For The Mind & Body analogue reissue from Pure Pleasure and compared to my well played early issue it is on a par and obviously quieter. I have also found the Classic Records issues to be of generally consistent quality, especially their mono Blue Note albums.

Companies that I have had very bad experiences with are Sundazed, MOFI & Simply Vinyl. I have bought a number of these over the years and found them to be consistently poor. Stu, IMO the Sundazed Bob Dylan issues are worse than even a late '70s/'80s CBS reissue. 

When I buy these remasters/reissues I'm not expecting them ever to be better than the original as there has obviously had to have been a certain amount of deterioration in the master tape over the years but some are on a par and some, e.g. Getz/Gilberto and Rumours are better, presumably due to better quality equipment. I prefer 1st/early pressings and buy remasters when the early pressings are not easily available, stupid money or on recommendations of particularly good examples e.g. Rumours. Otherwise if I can buy originals I will. I don't see the point of buying remasters of albums where early pressings cost peanuts to buy in good condition e.g. Steely Dan.

Just a few thoughts.

ATB

Steve

Steve:

We can agree to disagree on AP.

I agree with you on Simply Vinyl and MoFi, at least the latest ones. Some of the MoFis from back in the day aren't bad. I don't have enough experience with Sundazed to have an opinion but it seems they are best avoided.

Best,

Jay